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They don't have to make it a public vote. I'm fine to do this work myself for a week or so, and then enjoy crap-free searches. Or link my votes account to someo

by wruza 5y ago

They don't have to make it a public vote. I'm fine to do this work myself for a week or so, and then enjoy crap-free searches. Or link my votes account to someone who I trust and use their opinion. Idk why everyone is praising public anything, because local communities and knowledge webs worked fine pre-internet. Most of the bullshit came with globalization.

amelius 5y ago
I wish there was some standardized way to say "I trust you" on the internet, and share part of their information bubble (e.g. reviews, up/downvoted websites, youtube recommendations, etc.), and this bubble could have some transitive properties (if I trust X and X trusts Y, then to some extent I trust Y too). But it's probably too privacy sensitive (if I see which sites you upvoted, then I have some information about you). Hence, that's probably why this has to be either completely private or completely public.
- mcv 5y ago
  Well, every social media network tries to capture and monetize this, of course. But yes, it would be nice to have this in a less proprietary way. But I fear it's either going to be a privacy issue (because the person you trust has to publish every page they like and dislike), or it's going to be anonymous and therefore easily gamed by bad actors.
  - amelius 5y ago
    If the group of trusted people in a bubble is large enough (say 1000s of people), then it wouldn't be a problem, I suppose. For example, I wouldn't mind sharing my upvoted websites/videos/products with everyone on HN, as long as it is anonymized. Bad actors can be distrusted by the community, I suppose (though moderation seems to be largely an unsolved problem still).
    - eru 5y ago
      Anonymization is actually really, really hard.
- wruza 5y ago
  Click up/downvote. Click/dismiss "make it private/public" bubble. Set default vote visibility in settings. Enable/disable the bubble. List/add/remove sites in a privacy list. But the common notion is that it's probably too hard for "regular" users, so we have the internet of nonsense instead. Few more years and we won't find anything good.

by wruza 5y ago

amelius 5y ago

I wish there was some standardized way to say "I trust you" on the internet, and share part of their information bubble (e.g. reviews, up/downvoted websites, youtube recommendations, etc.), and this bubble could have some transitive properties (if I trust X and X trusts Y, then to some extent I trust Y too). But it's probably too privacy sensitive (if I see which sites you upvoted, then I have some information about you). Hence, that's probably why this has to be either completely private or completely public.

mcv 5y ago
Well, every social media network tries to capture and monetize this, of course. But yes, it would be nice to have this in a less proprietary way. But I fear it's either going to be a privacy issue (because the person you trust has to publish every page they like and dislike), or it's going to be anonymous and therefore easily gamed by bad actors.
- amelius 5y ago
  If the group of trusted people in a bubble is large enough (say 1000s of people), then it wouldn't be a problem, I suppose. For example, I wouldn't mind sharing my upvoted websites/videos/products with everyone on HN, as long as it is anonymized. Bad actors can be distrusted by the community, I suppose (though moderation seems to be largely an unsolved problem still).
  - eru 5y ago
    Anonymization is actually really, really hard.
wruza 5y ago
Click up/downvote. Click/dismiss "make it private/public" bubble. Set default vote visibility in settings. Enable/disable the bubble. List/add/remove sites in a privacy list. But the common notion is that it's probably too hard for "regular" users, so we have the internet of nonsense instead. Few more years and we won't find anything good.