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Doesn't HBO Max streaming somewhat counteract the losses in the theater? When HBO & Warner Bros decided to release all their movies on big screen and streaming

Doesn't HBO Max streaming somewhat counteract the losses in the theater? When HBO & Warner Bros decided to release all their movies on big screen and streaming at the same time for 2021 (only), part of it was a play to increase their streaming app subscription base? I know that we got a family subscription to HBO Max for exactly this as the main reason. I would be interested in understanding how the increased revenue in HBO Max streaming subscriptions balances out against the one-time loss they had for big-budget releases in 2021.

matwood 5y ago
Exactly. Box office numbers are going to become less and less important over time. Except for the few big special effect movies, most movies will move to streaming. Another wrinkle is the movie format itself is under attack. Dune for example should have been a weekly series. There just isn't enough time to do it right in a movie.
- 908B64B197 5y ago
  > Dune for example should have been a weekly series The movie is a trailer for the books. It's as good as it could ever be, considering it was in the making for 40 years [0]. [0] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/dune-storyboards-denis-villeneuve-photos-1235052576/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/dune...
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    Honestly, even as long as the movie was, I felt like they could've added another thirty minutes worth of material to make it an even three hours to flesh out the characters and add more clarity to some points made in the movie. The theatrical cut for The Fellowship of the Ring ran 178 minutes while ran a relatively paltry 156 - just twenty minutes could have pushed the movie lightyears ahead.
    - 908B64B197 5y ago
      Rumor is there's a lot that was left on the cutting board. Hours even.
- brightball 5y ago
  I’ve said this for years. Nothing would have made more sense than to have HBO pick it up after GoT ended.
bmurphy1976 5y ago
I am finally going to get a subscription specifically because of this movie. I can't be the only one.
RHSeeger 5y ago
Not counting the benefit of it HBO Max is like saying every single Netflix produced show was a loss. It's part of the reason people have the service, so part of the money made from the service (and cable subscriptions) can be counted to it. Doing otherwise is effectively lying. Overall, there's no way this movie lost money.

matwood 5y ago

Exactly. Box office numbers are going to become less and less important over time. Except for the few big special effect movies, most movies will move to streaming. Another wrinkle is the movie format itself is under attack. Dune for example should have been a weekly series. There just isn't enough time to do it right in a movie.

908B64B197 5y ago
> Dune for example should have been a weekly series The movie is a trailer for the books. It's as good as it could ever be, considering it was in the making for 40 years [0]. [0] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/dune-storyboards-denis-villeneuve-photos-1235052576/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/dune...
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Honestly, even as long as the movie was, I felt like they could've added another thirty minutes worth of material to make it an even three hours to flesh out the characters and add more clarity to some points made in the movie. The theatrical cut for The Fellowship of the Ring ran 178 minutes while ran a relatively paltry 156 - just twenty minutes could have pushed the movie lightyears ahead.
  - 908B64B197 5y ago
    Rumor is there's a lot that was left on the cutting board. Hours even.
brightball 5y ago
I’ve said this for years. Nothing would have made more sense than to have HBO pick it up after GoT ended.

bmurphy1976 5y ago

I am finally going to get a subscription specifically because of this movie. I can't be the only one.

RHSeeger 5y ago

Not counting the benefit of it HBO Max is like saying every single Netflix produced show was a loss. It's part of the reason people have the service, so part of the money made from the service (and cable subscriptions) can be counted to it. Doing otherwise is effectively lying. Overall, there's no way this movie lost money.