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I've been to this guys place. Nicest guy. But he is absolutely surrounded by "Trump Nation" people (their flags are everywhere out there) who hate him. Every ti

I've been to this guys place. Nicest guy. But he is absolutely surrounded by "Trump Nation" people (their flags are everywhere out there) who hate him. Every time he leaves home his place is vandalized. Just before I visited someone had waited till he was gone and then dumped truck loads of some kind of poison all over his grounds. He was going through and sifting it out of the soil by hand. It is incredible how cheerful and optimistic he remains in the face of all the surrounding hate. I'd definitely recommend going and visiting his place if you are ever in Portland.

s5300 5y ago
- anon_123g987 5y ago
  - TaylorAlexander 5y ago
    In an area surrounded by "Trump Nation" flags, the police very likely have those flags on their property too. They may well do nothing if you are reporting their friends, and they will definitely do nothing if the perpetrators are actually officers.
  - kube-system 5y ago
    It's property crime. They'll write up a report and you can give it to your insurance company. They're not going to investigate it in-depth or serve as your personal security force. The most effective solution is probably to put up a fence and cameras.
    - anon_123g987 5y ago
      Of course. I guess, what I wanted to say is that anything is better than setting up a trap and just executing the guy, like the other commenter said.
  - throwawaygh 5y ago
    Reporting property damage to the police is never useful. Where I live, they won't even send an officer out. I have a few friends who own property in West Virginia, so probably similar vibes to rural Oregon. A report to the police out there for something like this would probably be counter-productive. At best.
  - s5300 5y ago
    While this is starting to get into flame war we don’t want on HN (so I wont comment further on it past this) The police in “Trump Nation” areas of our country tend to be very kind & permissive of skirting the law to the rest of those who identify with their same political views, and it often goes the same for the Sheriff, and sometimes even further up the chain. Simply put - I don’t know the entire context, but if one of the reasons they’re harassing this person has to do with the fact he’s of the “wrong” political views, the police aren’t going to do anything to those harassing him. That is one of the reasons our gun laws are nice, but sometimes when the “wrong side” exercises their right to self defense, the sitting president publicly calls for their execution without trial. [1] @anon_123g987 if it weren’t literally poison I would be more inclined to agree with you on not using excessive force. But somebody who dumps poison on your property probably doesn’t think very highly of your life, and may over time take more brash measures against you. Also, having somebody work security on your property definitely isn’t a trap, especially in rural areas. [1]https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics/trump-fugitive-shooting/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics/trump-fugitive-shoot...
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into tedious flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
duck 5y ago
Why do they hate him?
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WalterBright 5y ago
Time to buy a trail cam. They're not expensive.
- irrational 5y ago
  No point. The Police in the area are the same people as the Trump nation people. They won’t do anything against their own.
- dylan604 5y ago
  And do what with it? Send the data to the police to do what with? Their job? You never know if the LEOs might not just feel the same way and are deliberately looking the other way.
noduerme 5y ago
I live in Portland but spend most weekends at my gf's house in the country, near Chehalem, about a 15 minute drive from where the airplane is. It's a weird mix out there, because it's also wine country, so you have a lot of very wealthy landowners - some of whom aren't quite "locals" and are more socially liberal. The locals can really get into your business, though. Among other things, in our situation, some of the neighbors don't believe in Covid and during the lockdowns they went out of their way to have parties, and show up and try to spook us by getting close up in our faces. Ironically, once they found out we were vaccinated they stopped showing up, because they think the vaxed can spread proteins that will sterilize them. I've seen and heard them practicing with paint ball guns in the woods on nights prior to when Trump caravans rolled into Portland and shot BLM protesters with ball bearings. During the fires last summer, when it went out that the Bureau of Land Management was starting back-fires, they misinterpreted "BLM" to mean "Black Lives Matter", and set up illegal armed checkpoints on the roads, stopping cars at gunpoint to "check for antifa". Law enforcement did nothing about it. The Newberg school district is currently in hot water for banning all "political clothing" - defined as LGBTQ colors and BLM shirts, but, of course, not MAGA or Jesus stuff. At a bar there recently, someone told me that California had just legalized child abuse. A woman I know says the best sushi in Newberg is from the Fred Myer. Her son won't drink bottled water because it's heavier than normal water and designed to make you thirsty. I tried going to an accountant out there and when I walked into her office for the first meeting, she was wearing a large gold swastika necklace. I don't know if she knew I was Jewish or she just wears that all the time. That being said, there are all kinds of people out there - horse trainers, winemakers and others in the industry, five-star chefs, doctors, weirdo hippies, and the wealthy landed class, who are just like anyone you'd meet in Portland. There was even an unheard-of, pretty well-attended LGBTQ rally in downtown Newberg a couple months ago. Of the lower class there are only about 1/3rd I'd say who are actively hostile, as opposed to just curious. It's manageable as long as you never get into conversations about politics and treat everyone with respect. The only black person I know of who lives out there says he prefers it because he knows where he stands (as a curiosity) and he has no trouble with anyone. That's pretty much the attitude you have to adopt.
- ryandvm 5y ago
  > once they found out we were vaccinated they stopped showing up, because they think the vaxed can spread proteins that will sterilize them Jesus Christ, Idiocracy was far too charitable

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anon_123g987 5y ago
- TaylorAlexander 5y ago
  In an area surrounded by "Trump Nation" flags, the police very likely have those flags on their property too. They may well do nothing if you are reporting their friends, and they will definitely do nothing if the perpetrators are actually officers.
- kube-system 5y ago
  It's property crime. They'll write up a report and you can give it to your insurance company. They're not going to investigate it in-depth or serve as your personal security force. The most effective solution is probably to put up a fence and cameras.
  - anon_123g987 5y ago
    Of course. I guess, what I wanted to say is that anything is better than setting up a trap and just executing the guy, like the other commenter said.
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  Reporting property damage to the police is never useful. Where I live, they won't even send an officer out. I have a few friends who own property in West Virginia, so probably similar vibes to rural Oregon. A report to the police out there for something like this would probably be counter-productive. At best.
- s5300 5y ago
  While this is starting to get into flame war we don’t want on HN (so I wont comment further on it past this) The police in “Trump Nation” areas of our country tend to be very kind & permissive of skirting the law to the rest of those who identify with their same political views, and it often goes the same for the Sheriff, and sometimes even further up the chain. Simply put - I don’t know the entire context, but if one of the reasons they’re harassing this person has to do with the fact he’s of the “wrong” political views, the police aren’t going to do anything to those harassing him. That is one of the reasons our gun laws are nice, but sometimes when the “wrong side” exercises their right to self defense, the sitting president publicly calls for their execution without trial. [1] @anon_123g987 if it weren’t literally poison I would be more inclined to agree with you on not using excessive force. But somebody who dumps poison on your property probably doesn’t think very highly of your life, and may over time take more brash measures against you. Also, having somebody work security on your property definitely isn’t a trap, especially in rural areas. [1]https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics/trump-fugitive-shooting/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics/trump-fugitive-shoot...
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into tedious flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

duck 5y ago

Why do they hate him?

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WalterBright 5y ago

Time to buy a trail cam. They're not expensive.

irrational 5y ago
No point. The Police in the area are the same people as the Trump nation people. They won’t do anything against their own.
dylan604 5y ago
And do what with it? Send the data to the police to do what with? Their job? You never know if the LEOs might not just feel the same way and are deliberately looking the other way.

noduerme 5y ago

I live in Portland but spend most weekends at my gf's house in the country, near Chehalem, about a 15 minute drive from where the airplane is. It's a weird mix out there, because it's also wine country, so you have a lot of very wealthy landowners - some of whom aren't quite "locals" and are more socially liberal. The locals can really get into your business, though. Among other things, in our situation, some of the neighbors don't believe in Covid and during the lockdowns they went out of their way to have parties, and show up and try to spook us by getting close up in our faces. Ironically, once they found out we were vaccinated they stopped showing up, because they think the vaxed can spread proteins that will sterilize them. I've seen and heard them practicing with paint ball guns in the woods on nights prior to when Trump caravans rolled into Portland and shot BLM protesters with ball bearings. During the fires last summer, when it went out that the Bureau of Land Management was starting back-fires, they misinterpreted "BLM" to mean "Black Lives Matter", and set up illegal armed checkpoints on the roads, stopping cars at gunpoint to "check for antifa". Law enforcement did nothing about it. The Newberg school district is currently in hot water for banning all "political clothing" - defined as LGBTQ colors and BLM shirts, but, of course, not MAGA or Jesus stuff. At a bar there recently, someone told me that California had just legalized child abuse. A woman I know says the best sushi in Newberg is from the Fred Myer. Her son won't drink bottled water because it's heavier than normal water and designed to make you thirsty. I tried going to an accountant out there and when I walked into her office for the first meeting, she was wearing a large gold swastika necklace. I don't know if she knew I was Jewish or she just wears that all the time. That being said, there are all kinds of people out there - horse trainers, winemakers and others in the industry, five-star chefs, doctors, weirdo hippies, and the wealthy landed class, who are just like anyone you'd meet in Portland. There was even an unheard-of, pretty well-attended LGBTQ rally in downtown Newberg a couple months ago. Of the lower class there are only about 1/3rd I'd say who are actively hostile, as opposed to just curious. It's manageable as long as you never get into conversations about politics and treat everyone with respect. The only black person I know of who lives out there says he prefers it because he knows where he stands (as a curiosity) and he has no trouble with anyone. That's pretty much the attitude you have to adopt.

ryandvm 5y ago
> once they found out we were vaccinated they stopped showing up, because they think the vaxed can spread proteins that will sterilize them Jesus Christ, Idiocracy was far too charitable