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Does this mean Verizon and t-mobile are also blocking all VPN traffic? Also, how can the "land of the free" not have net-neutrality laws?

joe-collins 5y ago
We did, briefly, under Obama. More recently, the previous administration unwound those rules. More technically: NN was implemented via the existing authority of the FCC, rather than any new law. Then the FCC, under new leadership, decided that internet service was outside of that authority, actually, and dropped that enforcement. Under Biden, there has been no change back in the other direction. (And at no point has there been a separate, federal law.)
- kevin_b_er 5y ago
  The previous administration even attempted to prevent states from having net neutrality by claiming that disclaiming FCC authority was a prohibition on it. Yes, by attempting to claim FCC had no authority to regulate they also simultaneously claimed this prohibited states from regulating it. The paradoxical was a direct reflection of the corruption within the FCC at the hands of the previous administration.
- jondwillis 5y ago
  If anyone is aware of any grassroots efforts to reinstate NN, please comment. I had basically forgotten about the rollback under Ajit Pai, which, is in my cynical view, exactly what they want.
thebigjewbowski 5y ago
You could say our ISPs are free to make deals with whomever wrt bandwidth. Is free, unlimited HD Netflix steaming worth more than private relay? I’m guessing most people would say yes. I’d consider switching. Oddly enough though I was able to turn on private relay on T-Mobile USA.
skunkworker 5y ago
No, Verizon is not at least. I will commonly connect to my home network over self-hosted vpn while on Verizon LTE.
- xanaxagoras 5y ago
  Same here, except instead of commonly, always, my cellular data won't work if I'm not connected. If they interfered with that I would switch carriers in a heartbeat.

joe-collins 5y ago

We did, briefly, under Obama. More recently, the previous administration unwound those rules. More technically: NN was implemented via the existing authority of the FCC, rather than any new law. Then the FCC, under new leadership, decided that internet service was outside of that authority, actually, and dropped that enforcement. Under Biden, there has been no change back in the other direction. (And at no point has there been a separate, federal law.)

kevin_b_er 5y ago
The previous administration even attempted to prevent states from having net neutrality by claiming that disclaiming FCC authority was a prohibition on it. Yes, by attempting to claim FCC had no authority to regulate they also simultaneously claimed this prohibited states from regulating it. The paradoxical was a direct reflection of the corruption within the FCC at the hands of the previous administration.
jondwillis 5y ago
If anyone is aware of any grassroots efforts to reinstate NN, please comment. I had basically forgotten about the rollback under Ajit Pai, which, is in my cynical view, exactly what they want.

thebigjewbowski 5y ago

You could say our ISPs are free to make deals with whomever wrt bandwidth. Is free, unlimited HD Netflix steaming worth more than private relay? I’m guessing most people would say yes. I’d consider switching. Oddly enough though I was able to turn on private relay on T-Mobile USA.

skunkworker 5y ago

No, Verizon is not at least. I will commonly connect to my home network over self-hosted vpn while on Verizon LTE.

xanaxagoras 5y ago
Same here, except instead of commonly, always, my cellular data won't work if I'm not connected. If they interfered with that I would switch carriers in a heartbeat.