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> Because accuracy isn't the goal. Proponents of "Latinx" aren't speaking to us or for us. They're speaking through us—to each other. Its use is purely about si
by diebeforei485 5y ago
> Because accuracy isn't the goal. Proponents of "Latinx" aren't speaking to us or for us. They're speaking through us—to each other. Its use is purely about signaling—not to Latin people, but to other signalers. And beneath the signal, there is hardly anything of substance at all.
This is a bit like (non-native) people stating their location in their Twitter bio as "Salish lands" or "Ohlone lands" in place of Seattle or San Francisco. And yes, I think this extends to cishet people using putting gender pronouns in their name field on Zoom, etc.
- ASalazarMX 5y agoIf they really want to signal their virtue, they should call themselves AmericXns first before mangling other nationalities.
- tasogare 5y ago
- beepbooptheory 5y agoCould you explain what you mean here?
- ohCh6zos 5y ago‘Cishet’ is an imposed label to the group it describes as ‘Latinx’ is to the group it describes.
- beepbooptheory 5y agonope
- jcadam 5y agoI don't even know what a 'cishet' is, and I have no desire to learn.
- greyivy 5y agoI can't speak to using "Latinx" or land acknowledgements, but myself and other non-cishet people I know appreciate the normalization of adding pronouns to names/bios by all kinds of people because it helps us feel a lot less othered. I hate being the only one in a Zoom call with my pronouns in my name. That being said, I know cishet people more often than not do it to signal, but intentions aside, I think it's helpful and I only hope it becomes more common. I'd say about a quarter of my organization does it on Zoom, with almost all of us doing it on Mattermost. It's nice.
- inter_netuser 5y agowhats the percentage of non-cishet in your organization?
- greyivy 5y ago~5% is my best guess.
- 908B64B197 5y agoThere's a hidden benefit as well: ambiguous names. Like Taylor for instance.
- Asraelite 5y agoI understand the utility of communicating what pronouns to use, but what I don't understand is why people list multiple forms instead of just one. If you say "they", the "them" and "their" are implied already etc.
- NylaTheWolf 5y agoI guess because it rolls off the tongue better?
- woodruffw 5y ago> And yes, I think this extends to cishet people using putting gender pronouns in their name field on Zoom, etc. Do you have a functional cisdar/gaydar? Mine seems to be broken. Less flippantly: you don't necessarily know, a priori, what someone's pronouns are just from their name and/or profile on some web service. That's why listing pronouns is, at the absolute minimum, socially useful.
- atkailash 5y ago
- kcplate 5y agoI think it boils down to if its important to you, list them. If its not, leave them off. I’ll never list mine because I cannot think of a time in my life when some one has gotten my pronouns wrong, and even if they did, it would not offend me in the slightest. If anything I would just assume the person misspoke, or if it continued, that they are an idiot or intentionally being an ass.