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I whole heartedly disagree, you can absolutely sell to businesses without a real coded app. The trick is to pitch to businesses and ask if they'd be willing to

by Shindi 5y ago

I whole heartedly disagree, you can absolutely sell to businesses without a real coded app. The trick is to pitch to businesses and ask if they'd be willing to pay for a solution once it's finished being built and get them to sign paperwork stating such (maybe with a reduced price or something). If you're the technical founder, this is what your cofounders should be doing. If your solution really solves their problem, they will do it. This happens all the time and I've seen million dollar deals happen this way.

XE3BZiC5J4CAAx 5y ago
You might be right, but we have the demo now anyway. The problem is that this shouldn't have been so painful for me in the first place. It's just a few months working on a cool product. They could throw me some cash to make sure I'm okay, and I'd be happy. Their inability to be fair/competent is what's breaking me.
- mcv 5y ago
  Then stop working on it and start working on something new. They can't reasonably expect you to do all the work for not enough pay while they contribute nothing.
- rkk3 5y ago
  >> There's no paper work No written agreement & they are sending you cash! Wow. > The problem is that this shouldn't have been so painful for me in the first place Startups are incredibly painful, especially at the early stage. There are always exceptions, but lots of red flags to what you've described. Most importantly it doesn't sound like your team is committed... But it also seems like they lack the relevant competency in Sales, Product or Startups. You might learn a lot by going down the path you're on, but it sounds like you're going to be learning by running through walls so I would expect it to hurt.
  - XE3BZiC5J4CAAx 5y ago
    Dude. Yeah I was dumb. Whatever, I'll live.
    - rkk3 5y ago
      I'm not sure I'd call anything you did dumb or frame it that negatively. them sending you cash without paperwork? That's more don them. The biggest risk for you is the expectation management and scope to wind it down. And I wouldn't be hard on yourself if your first try doesn't get off the ground, most startups don't. Just learn, grow and have fun.
rkk3 5y ago
This. You have much cheaper ways to validate than building something without talking to people.

by Shindi 5y ago

XE3BZiC5J4CAAx 5y ago

You might be right, but we have the demo now anyway. The problem is that this shouldn't have been so painful for me in the first place. It's just a few months working on a cool product. They could throw me some cash to make sure I'm okay, and I'd be happy. Their inability to be fair/competent is what's breaking me.

mcv 5y ago
Then stop working on it and start working on something new. They can't reasonably expect you to do all the work for not enough pay while they contribute nothing.
rkk3 5y ago
>> There's no paper work No written agreement & they are sending you cash! Wow. > The problem is that this shouldn't have been so painful for me in the first place Startups are incredibly painful, especially at the early stage. There are always exceptions, but lots of red flags to what you've described. Most importantly it doesn't sound like your team is committed... But it also seems like they lack the relevant competency in Sales, Product or Startups. You might learn a lot by going down the path you're on, but it sounds like you're going to be learning by running through walls so I would expect it to hurt.
- XE3BZiC5J4CAAx 5y ago
  Dude. Yeah I was dumb. Whatever, I'll live.
  - rkk3 5y ago
    I'm not sure I'd call anything you did dumb or frame it that negatively. them sending you cash without paperwork? That's more don them. The biggest risk for you is the expectation management and scope to wind it down. And I wouldn't be hard on yourself if your first try doesn't get off the ground, most startups don't. Just learn, grow and have fun.

rkk3 5y ago

This. You have much cheaper ways to validate than building something without talking to people.