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This is an absolutely bonkers story by Danish standard. The guy is amongst the highest ranking civil servants, holds the order of Dannebro. On top of this a num

This is an absolutely bonkers story by Danish standard. The guy is amongst the highest ranking civil servants, holds the order of Dannebro. On top of this a number of Danish journalists have been "taken in for a chat" by the intelligence services. The charges are still secret, but appears to be related to this story: Danish secret service helped US spy on Germany's Angela Merkel: report https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on-germanys-angela-merkel-report/a-57721901 https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on...

miohtama 5y ago
Do fiber cables land in Denmark, or what special does Denmark have to make it a good partner for NSA?
- hammock 5y ago
  They are Nine Eyes (coalition that excludes Germany), willingly cooperative and with different charter/regulations than NSA. Bit of a tautological answer and I hope another commenter has more insight.
- 4gotunameagain 5y ago
  https://www.submarinecablemap.com/ https://www.submarinecablemap.com/ Also Denmark has been a US protectorate for quite a while for reasons (e.g. Thule airforce base)
  - pc86 5y ago
    "Protectorate" has a very specific definition and Denmark is most certainly not one.
- poizan42 5y ago
  Exactly, more specifically Blåbjerg is one of the landing points of TAT-14 as well as Havfrue/AEC-2.
decebalus1 5y ago
Do you mean 'Dannebrog' (Dannebrogordenen)? Dannebro reads like a title a fraternity would give you
- cinntaile 5y ago
  Welcome to our secret order where everyone is called Daniel, we're all brothers.
- throwaway4good 5y ago
  Yeah - missing the g - it is serious business in dk though: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dannebrog https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dannebrog
  - perihelions 5y ago
    >"Anton Michelsen was made a part of Royal Copenhagen A/S who is now the supplier." If anyone's seen Alfred Hitchcock's Topaz (1969), that's where they filmed the opening scene where the KGB pursues the Soviet defector through central Copenhagen. The porcelain factory in the film is (was?) the real-life company's ceramics factory.
- kzrdude 5y ago
  The 'g' is not sounded out loud anyway in Dannebrog, so your interpretation still lives, I can happily report.
  - pomdapi 5y ago
    Oh jeez, so that bunch of drunk Danish students I've seen do all the bars in the street was in fact a wild pack of Dannebros... Duly noted.
  - rvense 5y ago
    Exactly. If you prononuce it "Dannebrok" we will complain.
keewee7 5y ago
If anyone is doubting how much influence US intelligence has over Danish intelligence: >Danish intelligence also helped the US agency to spy on the Danish foreign and finance ministries as well as a Danish weapons manufacturer. The FE also cooperated with the NSA on spying operations against the US government itself. https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on-germanys-angela-merkel-report/a-57721901 https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on... The NSA made the Danish FE spy on both the Danish and US government. That is wild.
- LatteLazy 5y ago
  People think it's west Vs China or USA vs others. It's not. It's these "services" Vs the people they're meant to be serving.
  - skinkestek 5y ago
    It is also the west vs China. Although not Westerners against Chinese (my kids are welcome to play with the Chinese kids next door and the Chinese next door are just as welcome as any other neighbor to a garden party). But it should be the world against crimes against humanity. And then we Westerners will also have to clean up our own systems; that is just as important, but a smaller task.
    - trasz 5y ago
      It’s not China who killed million random civilians in the Middle East. Was there a more severe crime against humanity in the past two decades?
      - didntknowya 5y ago
        apparently some crimes against humanity are worse than the others
      - somesortofsystm 5y ago
        Wasn't just a random million. Iraq lost 5% of its population to America's war of aggression.
phkahler 5y ago
When the head of the agency can't stop the agency from doing something he doesn't like...
- manquer 5y ago
  Heads have only nominal control over any decently sized organisation. There are myriad ways in which people below can circumvent any restrictions placed. A example from this issue would be how NSA used Danish intelligence to bypass restrictions placed by Congress. The military tries hard to achieve this kind of alignment but even there it can be hard, a good historical example is Japanese Navy and army during second world war .

miohtama 5y ago

Do fiber cables land in Denmark, or what special does Denmark have to make it a good partner for NSA?

hammock 5y ago
They are Nine Eyes (coalition that excludes Germany), willingly cooperative and with different charter/regulations than NSA. Bit of a tautological answer and I hope another commenter has more insight.
4gotunameagain 5y ago
https://www.submarinecablemap.com/ https://www.submarinecablemap.com/ Also Denmark has been a US protectorate for quite a while for reasons (e.g. Thule airforce base)
- pc86 5y ago
  "Protectorate" has a very specific definition and Denmark is most certainly not one.
poizan42 5y ago
Exactly, more specifically Blåbjerg is one of the landing points of TAT-14 as well as Havfrue/AEC-2.

decebalus1 5y ago

Do you mean 'Dannebrog' (Dannebrogordenen)? Dannebro reads like a title a fraternity would give you

cinntaile 5y ago
Welcome to our secret order where everyone is called Daniel, we're all brothers.
throwaway4good 5y ago
Yeah - missing the g - it is serious business in dk though: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dannebrog https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dannebrog
- perihelions 5y ago
  >"Anton Michelsen was made a part of Royal Copenhagen A/S who is now the supplier." If anyone's seen Alfred Hitchcock's Topaz (1969), that's where they filmed the opening scene where the KGB pursues the Soviet defector through central Copenhagen. The porcelain factory in the film is (was?) the real-life company's ceramics factory.
kzrdude 5y ago
The 'g' is not sounded out loud anyway in Dannebrog, so your interpretation still lives, I can happily report.
- pomdapi 5y ago
  Oh jeez, so that bunch of drunk Danish students I've seen do all the bars in the street was in fact a wild pack of Dannebros... Duly noted.
- rvense 5y ago
  Exactly. If you prononuce it "Dannebrok" we will complain.

keewee7 5y ago

If anyone is doubting how much influence US intelligence has over Danish intelligence: >Danish intelligence also helped the US agency to spy on the Danish foreign and finance ministries as well as a Danish weapons manufacturer. The FE also cooperated with the NSA on spying operations against the US government itself. https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on-germanys-angela-merkel-report/a-57721901 https://www.dw.com/en/danish-secret-service-helped-us-spy-on... The NSA made the Danish FE spy on both the Danish and US government. That is wild.

LatteLazy 5y ago
People think it's west Vs China or USA vs others. It's not. It's these "services" Vs the people they're meant to be serving.
- skinkestek 5y ago
  It is also the west vs China. Although not Westerners against Chinese (my kids are welcome to play with the Chinese kids next door and the Chinese next door are just as welcome as any other neighbor to a garden party). But it should be the world against crimes against humanity. And then we Westerners will also have to clean up our own systems; that is just as important, but a smaller task.
  - trasz 5y ago
    It’s not China who killed million random civilians in the Middle East. Was there a more severe crime against humanity in the past two decades?
    - didntknowya 5y ago
      apparently some crimes against humanity are worse than the others
    - somesortofsystm 5y ago
      Wasn't just a random million. Iraq lost 5% of its population to America's war of aggression.

phkahler 5y ago

When the head of the agency can't stop the agency from doing something he doesn't like...

manquer 5y ago
Heads have only nominal control over any decently sized organisation. There are myriad ways in which people below can circumvent any restrictions placed. A example from this issue would be how NSA used Danish intelligence to bypass restrictions placed by Congress. The military tries hard to achieve this kind of alignment but even there it can be hard, a good historical example is Japanese Navy and army during second world war .