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Arnt 5y ago
Would you go as far as quarantining entire blocks of 500 apartments based on one positive covid test, and not letting people out even to buy food? What the Chinese are doing there isn't nice. Both of my children attend sports practice this afternoon, and they really need do to that. Shutting up entire families for weeks without even five minutes of fresh air is worse than merely "not nice", it's damned harsh. But I can imagine that it'll stop transmission.
- krageon 5y ago
  > they really need to do that What you describe in terms of being forced to stay without food would definitely suck. The fact that you follow this up with "my children absolutely need sports" puts a frankly fairly tone-deaf slant on the rest of it. Yes, you are right that what you describe China doing is not nice. No, you are not right that not letting children go to sports practice as a measure to keep people from literally dying is "damned harsh". It's a measure that you can get used to - and I would say not letting others (including perhaps these children) get used to it by being so against it vocally is not helping anyone. Instead we should look for constructive ways to vent our excess energy, which everyone has and children especially do need to do, that don't involve antisocial reasoning.
  - Arnt 5y ago
    I suppose my previous message was easily misunderstood. I'm not trying to say that China's extremely quick escalation and general hashshness is bad overall, or that good. I could argue both sides of that question, and I don't envy the politicians who have to make the choice for each country. China's is a harsh response, but for a neurotropic and highly infections virus maybe the choice is between an immediate harsh response and another bad outcome dictated by the virus. And maybe the other outcome is worse. I wouldn't know. (I think noone knows — several other neurotropic viruses have a knack of putting people in wheelchairs twenty year later, is this one like them?)
- jdhn 5y ago
  >Would you go as far as quarantining entire blocks of 500 apartments based on one positive covid test, and not letting people out even to buy food? If the consequences that will come down upon you are severe enough, you'd probably recommend quarantining entire blocks of 500 apartments as well.

Arnt 5y ago

Would you go as far as quarantining entire blocks of 500 apartments based on one positive covid test, and not letting people out even to buy food? What the Chinese are doing there isn't nice. Both of my children attend sports practice this afternoon, and they really need do to that. Shutting up entire families for weeks without even five minutes of fresh air is worse than merely "not nice", it's damned harsh. But I can imagine that it'll stop transmission.

krageon 5y ago
> they really need to do that What you describe in terms of being forced to stay without food would definitely suck. The fact that you follow this up with "my children absolutely need sports" puts a frankly fairly tone-deaf slant on the rest of it. Yes, you are right that what you describe China doing is not nice. No, you are not right that not letting children go to sports practice as a measure to keep people from literally dying is "damned harsh". It's a measure that you can get used to - and I would say not letting others (including perhaps these children) get used to it by being so against it vocally is not helping anyone. Instead we should look for constructive ways to vent our excess energy, which everyone has and children especially do need to do, that don't involve antisocial reasoning.
- Arnt 5y ago
  I suppose my previous message was easily misunderstood. I'm not trying to say that China's extremely quick escalation and general hashshness is bad overall, or that good. I could argue both sides of that question, and I don't envy the politicians who have to make the choice for each country. China's is a harsh response, but for a neurotropic and highly infections virus maybe the choice is between an immediate harsh response and another bad outcome dictated by the virus. And maybe the other outcome is worse. I wouldn't know. (I think noone knows — several other neurotropic viruses have a knack of putting people in wheelchairs twenty year later, is this one like them?)
jdhn 5y ago
>Would you go as far as quarantining entire blocks of 500 apartments based on one positive covid test, and not letting people out even to buy food? If the consequences that will come down upon you are severe enough, you'd probably recommend quarantining entire blocks of 500 apartments as well.