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Simple: in summer, summer time is much better than winter time, and in winter, winter time is much better than summer time.p Using summer time means you get th

Simple: in summer, summer time is much better than winter time, and in winter, winter time is much better than summer time.p Using summer time means you get the light in the evenings. Things like doing sports activities that need daylight after work become possible about a month earlier than without time, and you gain another month at the end. Long evenings are glorious for all sorts of activities. The alternative puts the light in the early morning when people sleep. In winter, winter time here means it's at least a bit twilighty during the morning commute; without it it would still be pitch dark, and it would still get dark before the end of the work day. (I'm in the Netherlands, which is actually already on a bit too summer timey timezone compared to its location). Yes, some people can change their schedule instead. Most people are tied to fixed times of work, their kids' school etc.

frogulis 5y ago
Melbourne, Australia here -- I wonder if the negative attitudes to DST relate to something specifically American. Perhaps school starting earlier in the US than here? Can't say I've ever wanted to stop daylight savings. Never-ending afternoon evenings every day in summer, delightful!
- Scarblac 5y ago
  Most of the US is to the south of my country. I guess that the closer to the equator you are, the less sense it makes. But also in the Netherlands, there are many people who want to abolish it. In my view, they're only thinking of the weekends when the switch is made. At that time, it doesn't seem to make a huge difference, and the switch is annoying, it takes some days to get into the new rhythm. But ask them, at the start of summer you have X hours of sunlight -- what times during the day would you like them to fall? And the same question for the darkest months of winter. I wouldn't be surprised if it needed a switch of two whole timezones to make both answers true.
Dylan16807 5y ago
> it would still get dark before the end of the work day. Where you are, yes. In the US, there's a lot of the country spending a lot of months of standard time with sunsets between 5pm and 6:30pm, where the shift would do the most good.

frogulis 5y ago

Melbourne, Australia here -- I wonder if the negative attitudes to DST relate to something specifically American. Perhaps school starting earlier in the US than here? Can't say I've ever wanted to stop daylight savings. Never-ending afternoon evenings every day in summer, delightful!

Scarblac 5y ago
Most of the US is to the south of my country. I guess that the closer to the equator you are, the less sense it makes. But also in the Netherlands, there are many people who want to abolish it. In my view, they're only thinking of the weekends when the switch is made. At that time, it doesn't seem to make a huge difference, and the switch is annoying, it takes some days to get into the new rhythm. But ask them, at the start of summer you have X hours of sunlight -- what times during the day would you like them to fall? And the same question for the darkest months of winter. I wouldn't be surprised if it needed a switch of two whole timezones to make both answers true.

Dylan16807 5y ago

> it would still get dark before the end of the work day. Where you are, yes. In the US, there's a lot of the country spending a lot of months of standard time with sunsets between 5pm and 6:30pm, where the shift would do the most good.