17 ms·

Cryptoland [video]

223 points by eisa01 5y ago

fimdomeio 5y ago
I'm very confused. I was seeing the video and then the website as if it was a joke. But then it started to look like it wasn't very funny and that it wasn't a joke. But... crypto, the crazy amounts of energy it uses, rising sea levels, and putting rich crypto people on an island.
cblconfederate 5y ago
why was it removed?
- mwattsun 5y ago
  It was marked as unlisted, then Molly White (@molly0xFFF) got ahold of it and started making fun of it. That's how I found out about it. Now Cryptoland is threatening Molly with legal action https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF/status/1479974074986209286 https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF/status/1479974074986209286 Edit: She has another site that is very cool: "Web3 is going just great" consisting of a daily update of the latest rugpulls and other frauds https://web3isgoinggreat.com/ https://web3isgoinggreat.com/
  - riffic 5y ago
    "cease and decease". omg, what a bunch of hacks https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464 https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464
  - cblconfederate 5y ago
    I thought it was a prank? And that c&d looks faked
    - mwattsun 5y ago
      It feels like that way to me but it's hard to tell these days. Possibly a good example of Poe's law
    - minimaxir 5y ago
      The email is likely not faked because they doubled-down but it shows another area of incompetance. A real cease and desist would likely go through an actual lawyer (with relevant contact information to ensure they actually have standing), not a legal@ email address.
      - cblconfederate 5y ago
        it's not a c&d if not sent by a lawyer. this is a nagging email
        rideontime 5y ago
        What's the difference?
  - KennyBlanken 5y ago
    Her response to that is gold. > "cease and decease" > I have removed all the false information
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
bawolff 5y ago
Wtf did i just watch. This has got to be someone trolling, right? If you didn't watch the whole thing, make sure to at least watch the animated section.
- mirekrusin 5y ago
  I don't know what's happening, people are paying tons of money for hashes of jpegs, honestly can't tell it's 50/50 from my pov.
  - mkhpalm 5y ago
    I've wondered how much of that is really just laundering crypto? Lets say you had a successful ransomware attack and got millions of dollars worth of BTC. How do you transfer that to a wallet you can use to cash out? I've always figured thats why people will pay massive amounts of crypto for really stupid NFT things. Its sort of like an express lane for more traditional methods of money laundering. For example, you don't need the physical art piece to launder fine art. NFTs are way easier than doing it the old fashioned way.
  - minism 5y ago
    I was shocked to discover after looking more closely that most of the popular NFTs do not contain the image hash in the blockchain token data, nor do they even contain the URL to the image! They simply contain an integer (the token ID). The ERC721 interface only requires String GetTokenURL(int tokenId) be implemented!
    - thrwyoilarticle 5y ago
      Are there a limited number of NFTs, then? INT_MAX?
      - easrng 5y ago
        tokenId is a uint256, so there are at most 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639935 NFTs per contract.
simlevesque 5y ago
"Proof of work gym"
- dymk 5y ago
  This legitimately clever joke buried in the middle of a horrendous video makes it even funnier
- tromp 5y ago
  One of the first places to be flooded by rising sea levels:-(
eisa01 5y ago
Featured in FT Alphaville today. Is this real? Feels like FYRE 2.0 https://www.ft.com/content/c79ea41b-41c0-4900-90ee-6e6347449610 https://www.ft.com/content/c79ea41b-41c0-4900-90ee-6e6347449... https://cryptoland.is/ https://cryptoland.is/
- cinntaile 5y ago
  They have a quote by Carlos Matos, from BitConnect fame. "We are changing the world as we know it." lol Probably fake.
  - walrus01 5y ago
    for something fake clearly somebody, somewhere put a lot of time into doing the 3D modeling and animation. seems like a bit too much effort for satire.
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    Matos found out they mentioned him in the video. He tweeted his displeasure. Trying to find it...
- CuriousCosmic 5y ago
  That's because it basically is. I'm pretty involved in the cryptocurrency space and I haven't found a single person outside of the memecoin get rich types (see "Shiba Army") that thinks this is a good idea or seriously viable in any real way. Honestly I can do nothing but hope that the craze around cryptocurrency dies down so that these types go back to other get rich quick schemes and leave the actual researchers, engineers, and developers to their work.
  - jmspring 5y ago
    They eventually removed the request, but there was a group that wanted to create a blockchain utopia (smartcity) north of Reno, Nevada. https://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/07/blockchains-withdraws-innovation-zone-plan-northern-nevada/6046332001/ https://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/07/blockchai...
noasaservice 5y ago
Eww. And I thought a climate destroying ponzi grift was bad enough... And then there's this tirefire? Hopefully a hurricane will sweep 6mo in and wipe this out.
- cinntaile 5y ago
  Regardless of what you think about crypto, wishing people to lose their homes and potentially lives is morally questionable don't you think?
  - riffic 5y ago
    wishes aren’t magic. There's a difference, morally, between doing someone harm and a desire for someone to be harmed.
    - cinntaile 5y ago
      How is the moral difference between wishing and doing relevant? It doesn't help determine if wishing something bad can be morally questionable, which was my claim that you disagree(?) with.
      - cinntaile 5y ago
        Please explain what is wrong with my reasoning. I'm here to learn.
  - cma 5y ago
    It could be valuable proof of work to rebuild it.
rzzzt 5y ago
Crypto crypto crypto! Say it enough times and it loses all meaning.
- justinator 5y ago
  ZOMBO!
  - pugworthy 5y ago
    Still there! https://www.zombo.com/ https://www.zombo.com/
    - rzzzt 5y ago
      "The only limit is yourself."
sundarurfriend 5y ago
> Mirror of the Cryptoland presentation that its creators seem to be trying to wipe from the Internet for some reason. "for some reason" I wonder why! I'd love to see the comments they got on YouTube. This seems such a ridiculously obvious "let's cash in on the gold rush" attempt, and Poe's law started hitting me hard when it came to the animated sections. But of course it's the crypto space, so of course it's a real thing!
buildbuildbuild 5y ago
319 ETH per acre. ($1mil USD today) I'm struggling to find a way to constructively criticize. Project aside, the video is not at all professional to a western audience. (watch all of it, I dare you) It's stylistically tone-deaf for their target market, grift notwithstanding. Who decided that real estate investors need a cartoon? At least Fyre's promo content felt "cool."
- repomies69 5y ago
  Why not try your luck, some crypto ppl who have gotten recently rich might buy such shit.
- Speednet 5y ago
  I don't think I'd be so gentle. It is one of the most cringe-worthy things I've seen in quite some time. Makes the crypto space seem like it's entirely inhabited by morons and fools.
  - walrus01 5y ago
    if your industry segment is populated with a theoretical 5 to 10% of vociferous morons and fools, it tends to paint everyone else with the same brush.
    - micromacrofoot 5y ago
      5-10% is very generous
  - nvr219 5y ago
    Where's the lie
  - zenkat 5y ago
    Wait, it's not a parody meant to mock the whole crypto/web3 space as a bunch of shameless pseudo-libertarian get-rich-quick hucksters? Poe's law strikes again!
- perihelions 5y ago
pm90 5y ago
Unfortunately a lot of people are gonna get scammed. This has happened so many times… I’m a bit surprised financial regulators aren’t cracking down on it just yet. At this point there’s not much to do but
- rg111 5y ago
  > I’m a bit surprised financial regulators aren’t cracking down on it just yet Financial regulators are government agencies supervised the government i.e. the lawmakers. As Tesla, and big banks have thrown millions and billions into crypto, don't you think that they will do everything in their power to keep this hype alive?
riffic 5y ago
Nice to see PeerTube out in the wild. PeerTube is a software application that implements the interoperable social networking standard, ActivityPub: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube What this means is if you have an account anywhere on this network, say a Mastodon account, you can interact with the video directly. It's a system that works a lot like how email addresses work (that is, a federated social web). last note: The Fediverse, as a whole, doesn't want to be associated with the web3 space. Pretty much because it is a system that works, and web3 is just a space for schmucks.
- paulgb 5y ago
  It would be a fun irony if web3 does succeed in pushing society beyond the centralization of web2, but only because it pushes people to use the federated systems we already have to overcome censorship when making fun of web3 stuff.
- rsynnott 5y ago
  > The Fediverse, as a whole, doesn't want to be associated with the web3 space The funny thing is, ActivityPub is vaguely under the banner of the Semantic Web. Which, at one time, was sometimes called, semi-jokingly... Web 3.0.
  - gerikson 5y ago
    This is one of the many things that annoy me about "web3" - they have, in my mind, appropriated a term that denotes something quite different.
- nathias 5y ago
  Youtube vs peertube vs odysee is a good comparison between web2, fediverse and web3. Youtube is popular and garbage, peertube unpopular and garbage and odysee unpopular and not garbage.
  - iSnow 5y ago
    Sounds a lot like "The People's Front of Judea" vs. "Judea People's Front"
pcwalton 5y ago
Ironically given the benefits that the cryptocurrency ecosystem supposedly brings to artists, this promotional material contains stolen IP from at least one independent artist [1]. Cryptoland's response was to block the victim [2]. [1]: https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1478764832967086083 https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1478764832967086083 [2]: https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1479852849932734477 https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1479852849932734477
- arcticbull 5y ago
  They also sent a cease and desist to one of the folks making fun of them on twitter - for making fun of them, on twitter. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/molly0xfff/status/1479974074986209286?s=21 https://twitter.com/molly0xfff/status/1479974074986209286?s=...
  - KennyBlanken 5y ago
    Her responses are gold. > Dear legal team, I have removed all the false statements. > "cease and decease"
  - perihelions 5y ago
    That's a very effective way to inspire people to make fun of you, on Twitter.
    - arcticbull 5y ago
      Certainly a good example of the Streisand effect. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
      - onion2k 5y ago
        So... Streis-land then?
    - vsareto 5y ago
      Oh they can do better: https://twitter.com/widesauce/status/1478816782966136832 https://twitter.com/widesauce/status/1478816782966136832 https://web.archive.org/web/20220106124249/https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1478815174232621059 https://web.archive.org/web/20220106124249/https://twitter.c...
zoneone 5y ago
Why would you want to live in a theme-park on a remote jungle island in a volatile jurisdiction with a bunch of assholes?
- habeebtc 5y ago
  Some people cannot conceive of the thing falling apart and everyone dying of hunger and thirst. It is rather less tropical but Put In Bay fits the bill much better.
  - netflixandkill 5y ago
    The best place to get STDs in the great lakes.
- runarberg 5y ago
  I’m guessing they are trying to appeal to speculators who are gambling that the value of the property will increase. The business model might resemble a pyramid shape.
- pavlov 5y ago
  Isn’t that the exact promise of El Salvador’s Bitcoin City, except for the island part.
  - narrator 5y ago
    You can already move to crypto land. You can buy residency in El Salvador for 3 bitcoin. There's even a tropical beach there. What? You don't like poor people? Tough luck pal. Besides, in your tiny little crypto island who's going to make your bed, take out the trash, make your meals and clean the toilets? Robots? Places like Aspen, or other towns for the super rich usually have a nearby middle class town for all the oompa loompahs. There's no island anywhere of only rich beautiful people.
    - shp0ngle 5y ago
      Notice how most of the people in this video are white guys. Most women are there to serve the guys. That's how it is in crypto utopia.
goodpoint 5y ago
Poe's law really applies here. I cannot believe this is not a parody.
elilev 5y ago
This looks dumb af
oleg_antonyan 5y ago
Poe's law in action: after watching this I cannot tell if this is 2nd order trolling or real thing
walrus01 5y ago
this reminds me of the crypto/seasteading bros who tried to buy a cruise ship https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/07/disastrous-voyage-satoshi-cryptocurrency-cruise-ship-seassteading https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/07/disastrous-voya... https://futurism.com/the-byte/bitcoin-cruise-ship https://futurism.com/the-byte/bitcoin-cruise-ship cryptoland, more like grift-o-land
slg 5y ago
Here[1] is an article with more details. One worrying detail is that whoever runs the Cryptoland Twitter account "joking" about the age of consent being the age of "mental maturity". It is always interesting what laws these people prioritize changing. [1] - https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n38x/cryptocurrency-investors-try-to-turn-private-islands-into-blockchain-utopias https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n38x/cryptocurrency-invest...
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- Hamuko 5y ago
  The official response to the age of consent thing was that they didn't know what "age of consent" means: https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480231356848349192 https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480231356848349192 They've also sent a C&D to someone: https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464 https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464
  - slg 5y ago
    That excuse makes no sense. There is no "age allowed" to enter "any other place, like a restaurant, a resort or an amusement park". Those places all let in babies and I assume Cryptoland would too. Also how does that explain the winking emoticon?
    - hailwren 5y ago
      To be fair, not a single communique of theirs has led me to believe that English is their first language.
      - tessierashpool 5y ago
        communiqué a good example of Muphry’s Law, that every online grammar correction/complaint will contain a grammatical error. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law
ConanRus 5y ago
TigeriusKirk 5y ago
Wow. This is amazing. Worth preserving for the ages, seriously. A crypto-island scheme has been a thing since the very early days of bitcoin. None of them ever get anywhere, of course. Now that I think about it, there was some sort of bitcoiner ranch/compound/village/utopia in some place like Chile or Argentina. I think it actually did get off the ground, but I don't remember hearing any more about it. I'll have to rabbit hole that soon. EDIT- It was in Chile, and it fell apart long ago. https://www.vice.com/en/article/bn53b3/atlas-mugged-922-v21n10 https://www.vice.com/en/article/bn53b3/atlas-mugged-922-v21n...
trhway 5y ago
a shark shaped island and a "Vladimir Club" in the center! Looks like an opening of a Hawaiian themed Snatch. Vladimir dressed in lei will come personally to break your legs. If to expand the target audience beyond the crypto toward all the youngish and hip - well it looks like the Metaverse that FB wants to put the world into, no real island required.
woodruffw 5y ago
Weird sub-communities and ballpits (timestamp 5:05) are not a famously good combination.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/dashcon https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/dashcon ?
  - woodruffw 5y ago
    Yep, that was the reference.
dqpb 5y ago
I can no longer tell what is real and what is satire.
b1n 5y ago
I'm about half way through this, and I honestly can't tell whether it's satire or not. If real, this could be the "The Room" [1] of pitches. Just waiting for it to turn into a Lord of the Flies type situation. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room
- notahacker 5y ago
  It would be a legitimately great setting for another incarnation of Bioshock
gfd 5y ago
What's with crypto and tropical escapes? FTX moved their headquarters to the Bahamas and now they are trying to build it into a crypto-hub too: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/sdjcH7KAxgB328RAb/ftx-ea-fellowships https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/sdjcH7KAxgB328RAb/...
- pg_bot 5y ago
  Most are tax havens that turn a blind eye to money laundering and other financial crimes.
- TrackerFF 5y ago
  Other than what's been mentioned, the "digital nomads" have a pretty long history of traveling to low-cost tropical areas, to get most bang for the buck as far living cost goes. And it makes sense. But these projects, however, I'm not sure. Maybe they really just want some secluded cult-like utopia of likeminded people. This is gonna be much more expensive than simply camping out in Thailand.
notfed 5y ago
Looks like a great place to host the next Fyre festival.
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
yawaworht1978 5y ago
For a good laugh on this matter, I recommend reading this. https://blog.mollywhite.net/cryptoland-thread/ https://blog.mollywhite.net/cryptoland-thread/ The level of incompetency and ironical jokes is overwhelming.
- just-tom 5y ago
  This is great.
Eighth 5y ago
Hi gang. There was an older version of this video that was released first. This newer version has a lot of changes that give a bit of an insight into how they want to present themselves. Here's a twitter thread detailing the changes: https://twitter.com/jpainio/status/1479863994387161093 https://twitter.com/jpainio/status/1479863994387161093 The raw side-by-side video is here: https://peertube.social/w/wpDMyuGRYu9ax6Xz3q9Hdi https://peertube.social/w/wpDMyuGRYu9ax6Xz3q9Hdi
mirekrusin 5y ago
This is a joke, right?
- tromp 5y ago
  The joke is that they really believe in their project...
amyjess 5y ago
The Cryptoland Twitter account also endorsed pedophilic grooming: https://twitter.com/widesauce/status/1478816782966136832 https://twitter.com/widesauce/status/1478816782966136832 Transcript: > Q: what will the age of consent be in Cryptoland? > A: Mental maturity should be more than enough! :) Cryptoland is either tasteless performance art or a disaster waiting to happen.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- ronsor 5y ago
  I saw it more as Epstein's island, but on the blockchain.
- mikeyouse 5y ago
  Just to clarify -- it wasn't a smile at the end of their gross response, it was a winky face (only important because they're trying to deny they knew what "age of consent" meant now that they caught shit for it, but the little wink gives it away completely).
tomerv 5y ago
The full cartoon video is still on the official channel: https://youtu.be/jf3ajS5me78 https://youtu.be/jf3ajS5me78
micromacrofoot 5y ago
I guess at some point they’ll try to pivot this into “it was satire all along” to regain credibility, but there’s no wink here… someone really believes this stuff.
malkia 5y ago
Is it me, or the island looks on purpose like crocodile/alligator? heh
tim333 5y ago
Oh well at least there's a real island they are planning on "Nananu-I-Cake Fiji , South Pacific USD 12,000,000.00" https://www.privateislandsonline.com/south-pacific/fiji/nananu-i-cake-fiji https://www.privateislandsonline.com/south-pacific/fiji/nana... They are planning on selling 60 lots for ~$1m each so the maths could work.
usui 5y ago
Take a drink every time he says a word prefixed with crypto, hard liquors only
madrox 5y ago
This is the best example of Poe's Law I've ever come across [1]. I honestly can't tell if this is brutal satire or someone's legit endgame. The more I watch the more inclined to think it's satire, but there's a lot of other things in this space I didn't think could be serious that are. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
- mdolon 5y ago
  This must be an art project, right? Legitimately still perplexed.
  - JKCalhoun 5y ago
    Guess with the "Silicon Valley" series wrapped up, writers gotta still write.
- Torn 5y ago
  I'd love to think it's post-irony or meta-irony[1], but really I suspect it's legit and they are trying their best. Bless. Feels like an order of magnitude more risky as an investor than Fyre festival 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsuSveDAlpI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsuSveDAlpI
- ccbccccbbcccbb 5y ago
  Looks like an example of the emerging genre of post-truth-quasi-parody, where if goal A fails then it is represented as goal B. Goal A is to dupe the most gullible of cryptozealots, trying to gain financially, goal B is to mock them, gaining exposure. Win-kinda-win.
- me_me_me 5y ago
  My opinion flipped 3 times when watching it. It like magnetic truth pole, the needle just spins.
armchairhacker 5y ago
Really impressive, this is a ton of effort for a satire piece.
Synaesthesia 5y ago
I love how the only things you can associate with crypto is scams, which are celebrated gleefully.
digitcatphd 5y ago
Fire festival on steroids
scyclow 5y ago
Oh my god, this video is incredible. Truly a work of art.
tough 5y ago
Honestly I think I could do this build an Island thing with a bunch of people much better... Might have to do it now LOL
mmmmkay 5y ago
I can't tell if this is satire or not
exdsq 5y ago
I work in blockchain; I'm getting massive Fyre Festival vibes from this crap
chenster 5y ago
Anyone noticed "OneCoin" in the video?
chenster 5y ago
Fyre 2.0
sadness3 5y ago
I'm pro-cryptocurrency generally, but I'm horrified by the crypto-as-salvation, utopianist narrative coming from some wealthy crypto proponents in denial of their own moral bankruptcy and the problem of human fallibility in general. It feels like the same crowd who are buying up places in cryostasis chambers and pinning their hopes on terraforming Mars.
zoneone 5y ago
Even the Principality of Sealand is getting in on the action: https://sealandgov.org/shop/become-a-duke-or-duchess/ https://sealandgov.org/shop/become-a-duke-or-duchess/
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
TwoNineFive 5y ago
I watched the whooooooooooooooooooole video I've not felt like this since 1999 when I did a party with co-workers at the T1 ISP I worked for at the time. The E-Trade monkey commercial came on and we laughed. We were already reviving large number of T1/T3/Sonet disconnect orders and it was obvious the end was coming soon. I don't know when crypto will pop. I don't think we've hit max stupid yet.
- throwhauser 5y ago
  The stock-market valuations of the late 1990s were excessive, but the objectives of the actual companies were fairly reasonable. Trading... over the internet. Order your pet food... over the internet. Eventually many of these things actually happened, they just weren't done by the "first movers" who were represented in the stock market bubble. What's happening now, in the cryptocurrency milieu, is more deranged. It's to the point that it's making technology itself seem like a joke.
  - etataetaet 5y ago
    What really got me to understand what an NFT is was a post in a gold / silver subredit. A poster asked the question "Where could I find someone who could make a physical NFT gold and silver coin". I really didn't understand what that meant so I asked. They answered that it was going to be a intricately designed coin that was a physical NFT. This physical NFT was just a coin. Nothing special, no blockchain just a coin. After this I realized that all these NFT's are completely worthless. You wouldn't buy a physical coin that some random guy (Talented artiest but still) for millions. Why would it be different if its digital? I could be wrong and NFT's will somehow become the next massive institution but I don't think so.
    - nivenkos 5y ago
      Also the point of coinage is that it is fungible, NFTs are designed to be non-fungible (and even Bitcoin if you get down to the details). Sadly crypto-currencies still haven't really solved the currency use-case.
ribs 5y ago
Is pinball making a comeback? Either way…I can see it being real. I can see it being a parody. I can see it being a parody funded by parodists but created by true believers. I can perhaps see it the other way. All the possibilities are open, just like crypto or something
olliej 5y ago
Let's ignore everything else. They're buying a private island, that would generally mean that the island is already part of a country, in which case it isn't materially different from buying a few hundred acres in rural Montana or some such. You aren't creating your own country, you're still subject to the laws of the state the island is part of. So I'm unsure if they're confused, or it's a scam. Certainly no matter what they may think, they don't get to choose their own age of consent.
motohagiography 5y ago
This is high comedy. Like alien intelligence level existential trolling. These are my people, I must find them.
Werewolf255 5y ago
So like, where does the water come from? Where does the food come from? Who does the cooking, cleaning, and essential maintenance of infrastructure? Where would these essential workers live? What would they get paid? How do you resolve disputes of who owns what hardware keys? Where do you treat sewage and waste water? Like those are just my questions on first glance. Let's not even get into the fact that the video straight up says nothing has been bought or paid for yet. It's clearly a scam, they're gonna be laughing all the way to some country that has no extradition treaty with Spain.
- dustintrex 5y ago
  The island (Nananu-i-Cake, pronounced roughly "nah-nah-nuh ee tha-keh") is less than 750 meters off the coast of Fiji's most populated island, Viti Levu, so piping in water, electricity etc and ferrying in workers is eminently achievable. Of course, the fact that the video doesn't mention any of this, much less trivia like the location of the bloody island, is a strong clue about how seriously this project has been planned and how seriously we should be taking it.
baby 5y ago
I watched the whole thing and I still don’t understand if this is a joke or a serious project
shp0ngle 5y ago
It's good that they started with the most important thing when they want to live on an island with no infrastructure and unclear jurisdiction. A 3D animated video. I think Taiwan and Hong Kong are looking at this with awe.
andutu 5y ago
I think this is an elaborate art project. This is mainly based off of the 2 "founders" at the end talking about the project. When they go scout for locations and one of the founders starts caressing the top of a thatch hut and the immediate next shot is a piece of paper taped to a tree with the title "Mercle Tree", that's when it clicked that this was a parody. It's scary that it took me that long to realize.
- mailbag 5y ago
  Art project for sure, and based on the engagement so far I'd say they've succeeded. Here is some of their previous work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBHQu4DoM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBHQu4DoM
  - fortyseven 5y ago
    A film with the aspect ratio of a piece of string. Interesting approach, I guess.
- SlowAndCalm 5y ago
  I agree; I'll buy all 60 plots if it's real! I feel people are so overly keen on dunking on crypto at the moment, that they are blinded to agreeable satire. The proof that people claim makes it sincere isn't compelling.
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
dumbfoundded 5y ago
Reminds me of that Futurama with Nixon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm4MH-Yf87Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm4MH-Yf87Q
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
NicoJuicy 5y ago
This is just a scam to try to sell their NFT's, right?
tacticaldev 5y ago
Blockchain Fyre Festival?
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
ls513 5y ago
Who's got the mirror for this video

223 points by eisa01 5y ago

I'm very confused. I was seeing the video and then the website as if it was a joke. But then it started to look like it wasn't very funny and that it wasn't a joke. But... crypto, the crazy amounts of energy it uses, rising sea levels, and putting rich crypto people on an island.

cblconfederate 5y ago

why was it removed?

mwattsun 5y ago
It was marked as unlisted, then Molly White (@molly0xFFF) got ahold of it and started making fun of it. That's how I found out about it. Now Cryptoland is threatening Molly with legal action https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF/status/1479974074986209286 https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF/status/1479974074986209286 Edit: She has another site that is very cool: "Web3 is going just great" consisting of a daily update of the latest rugpulls and other frauds https://web3isgoinggreat.com/ https://web3isgoinggreat.com/
- riffic 5y ago
  "cease and decease". omg, what a bunch of hacks https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464 https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464
- cblconfederate 5y ago
  I thought it was a prank? And that c&d looks faked
  - mwattsun 5y ago
    It feels like that way to me but it's hard to tell these days. Possibly a good example of Poe's law
  - minimaxir 5y ago
    The email is likely not faked because they doubled-down but it shows another area of incompetance. A real cease and desist would likely go through an actual lawyer (with relevant contact information to ensure they actually have standing), not a legal@ email address.
    - cblconfederate 5y ago
      it's not a c&d if not sent by a lawyer. this is a nagging email
      - rideontime 5y ago
        What's the difference?
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  Her response to that is gold. > "cease and decease" > I have removed all the false information

deleted 5y ago

[deleted]

bawolff 5y ago

Wtf did i just watch. This has got to be someone trolling, right? If you didn't watch the whole thing, make sure to at least watch the animated section.

mirekrusin 5y ago
I don't know what's happening, people are paying tons of money for hashes of jpegs, honestly can't tell it's 50/50 from my pov.
- mkhpalm 5y ago
  I've wondered how much of that is really just laundering crypto? Lets say you had a successful ransomware attack and got millions of dollars worth of BTC. How do you transfer that to a wallet you can use to cash out? I've always figured thats why people will pay massive amounts of crypto for really stupid NFT things. Its sort of like an express lane for more traditional methods of money laundering. For example, you don't need the physical art piece to launder fine art. NFTs are way easier than doing it the old fashioned way.
- minism 5y ago
  I was shocked to discover after looking more closely that most of the popular NFTs do not contain the image hash in the blockchain token data, nor do they even contain the URL to the image! They simply contain an integer (the token ID). The ERC721 interface only requires String GetTokenURL(int tokenId) be implemented!
  - thrwyoilarticle 5y ago
    Are there a limited number of NFTs, then? INT_MAX?
    - easrng 5y ago
      tokenId is a uint256, so there are at most 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639935 NFTs per contract.

simlevesque 5y ago

"Proof of work gym"

dymk 5y ago
This legitimately clever joke buried in the middle of a horrendous video makes it even funnier
tromp 5y ago
One of the first places to be flooded by rising sea levels:-(

eisa01 5y ago

Featured in FT Alphaville today. Is this real? Feels like FYRE 2.0 https://www.ft.com/content/c79ea41b-41c0-4900-90ee-6e6347449610 https://www.ft.com/content/c79ea41b-41c0-4900-90ee-6e6347449... https://cryptoland.is/ https://cryptoland.is/

cinntaile 5y ago
They have a quote by Carlos Matos, from BitConnect fame. "We are changing the world as we know it." lol Probably fake.
- walrus01 5y ago
  for something fake clearly somebody, somewhere put a lot of time into doing the 3D modeling and animation. seems like a bit too much effort for satire.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  Matos found out they mentioned him in the video. He tweeted his displeasure. Trying to find it...
CuriousCosmic 5y ago
That's because it basically is. I'm pretty involved in the cryptocurrency space and I haven't found a single person outside of the memecoin get rich types (see "Shiba Army") that thinks this is a good idea or seriously viable in any real way. Honestly I can do nothing but hope that the craze around cryptocurrency dies down so that these types go back to other get rich quick schemes and leave the actual researchers, engineers, and developers to their work.
- jmspring 5y ago
  They eventually removed the request, but there was a group that wanted to create a blockchain utopia (smartcity) north of Reno, Nevada. https://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/07/blockchains-withdraws-innovation-zone-plan-northern-nevada/6046332001/ https://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/07/blockchai...

noasaservice 5y ago

Eww. And I thought a climate destroying ponzi grift was bad enough... And then there's this tirefire? Hopefully a hurricane will sweep 6mo in and wipe this out.

cinntaile 5y ago
Regardless of what you think about crypto, wishing people to lose their homes and potentially lives is morally questionable don't you think?
- riffic 5y ago
  wishes aren’t magic. There's a difference, morally, between doing someone harm and a desire for someone to be harmed.
  - cinntaile 5y ago
    How is the moral difference between wishing and doing relevant? It doesn't help determine if wishing something bad can be morally questionable, which was my claim that you disagree(?) with.
    - cinntaile 5y ago
      Please explain what is wrong with my reasoning. I'm here to learn.
- cma 5y ago
  It could be valuable proof of work to rebuild it.

rzzzt 5y ago

Crypto crypto crypto! Say it enough times and it loses all meaning.

justinator 5y ago
ZOMBO!
- pugworthy 5y ago
  Still there! https://www.zombo.com/ https://www.zombo.com/
  - rzzzt 5y ago
    "The only limit is yourself."

sundarurfriend 5y ago

> Mirror of the Cryptoland presentation that its creators seem to be trying to wipe from the Internet for some reason. "for some reason" I wonder why! I'd love to see the comments they got on YouTube. This seems such a ridiculously obvious "let's cash in on the gold rush" attempt, and Poe's law started hitting me hard when it came to the animated sections. But of course it's the crypto space, so of course it's a real thing!

buildbuildbuild 5y ago

319 ETH per acre. ($1mil USD today) I'm struggling to find a way to constructively criticize. Project aside, the video is not at all professional to a western audience. (watch all of it, I dare you) It's stylistically tone-deaf for their target market, grift notwithstanding. Who decided that real estate investors need a cartoon? At least Fyre's promo content felt "cool."

repomies69 5y ago
Why not try your luck, some crypto ppl who have gotten recently rich might buy such shit.
Speednet 5y ago
I don't think I'd be so gentle. It is one of the most cringe-worthy things I've seen in quite some time. Makes the crypto space seem like it's entirely inhabited by morons and fools.
- walrus01 5y ago
  if your industry segment is populated with a theoretical 5 to 10% of vociferous morons and fools, it tends to paint everyone else with the same brush.
  - micromacrofoot 5y ago
    5-10% is very generous
- nvr219 5y ago
  Where's the lie
- zenkat 5y ago
  Wait, it's not a parody meant to mock the whole crypto/web3 space as a bunch of shameless pseudo-libertarian get-rich-quick hucksters? Poe's law strikes again!
perihelions 5y ago

pm90 5y ago

Unfortunately a lot of people are gonna get scammed. This has happened so many times… I’m a bit surprised financial regulators aren’t cracking down on it just yet. At this point there’s not much to do but

rg111 5y ago
> I’m a bit surprised financial regulators aren’t cracking down on it just yet Financial regulators are government agencies supervised the government i.e. the lawmakers. As Tesla, and big banks have thrown millions and billions into crypto, don't you think that they will do everything in their power to keep this hype alive?

riffic 5y ago

Nice to see PeerTube out in the wild. PeerTube is a software application that implements the interoperable social networking standard, ActivityPub: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube What this means is if you have an account anywhere on this network, say a Mastodon account, you can interact with the video directly. It's a system that works a lot like how email addresses work (that is, a federated social web). last note: The Fediverse, as a whole, doesn't want to be associated with the web3 space. Pretty much because it is a system that works, and web3 is just a space for schmucks.

paulgb 5y ago
It would be a fun irony if web3 does succeed in pushing society beyond the centralization of web2, but only because it pushes people to use the federated systems we already have to overcome censorship when making fun of web3 stuff.
rsynnott 5y ago
> The Fediverse, as a whole, doesn't want to be associated with the web3 space The funny thing is, ActivityPub is vaguely under the banner of the Semantic Web. Which, at one time, was sometimes called, semi-jokingly... Web 3.0.
- gerikson 5y ago
  This is one of the many things that annoy me about "web3" - they have, in my mind, appropriated a term that denotes something quite different.
nathias 5y ago
Youtube vs peertube vs odysee is a good comparison between web2, fediverse and web3. Youtube is popular and garbage, peertube unpopular and garbage and odysee unpopular and not garbage.
- iSnow 5y ago
  Sounds a lot like "The People's Front of Judea" vs. "Judea People's Front"

pcwalton 5y ago

Ironically given the benefits that the cryptocurrency ecosystem supposedly brings to artists, this promotional material contains stolen IP from at least one independent artist [1]. Cryptoland's response was to block the victim [2]. [1]: https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1478764832967086083 https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1478764832967086083 [2]: https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1479852849932734477 https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1479852849932734477

arcticbull 5y ago
They also sent a cease and desist to one of the folks making fun of them on twitter - for making fun of them, on twitter. [1] [1] https://twitter.com/molly0xfff/status/1479974074986209286?s=21 https://twitter.com/molly0xfff/status/1479974074986209286?s=...
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  Her responses are gold. > Dear legal team, I have removed all the false statements. > "cease and decease"
- perihelions 5y ago
  That's a very effective way to inspire people to make fun of you, on Twitter.
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    Certainly a good example of the Streisand effect. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
    - onion2k 5y ago
      So... Streis-land then?
  - vsareto 5y ago
    Oh they can do better: https://twitter.com/widesauce/status/1478816782966136832 https://twitter.com/widesauce/status/1478816782966136832 https://web.archive.org/web/20220106124249/https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1478815174232621059 https://web.archive.org/web/20220106124249/https://twitter.c...

zoneone 5y ago

Why would you want to live in a theme-park on a remote jungle island in a volatile jurisdiction with a bunch of assholes?

habeebtc 5y ago
Some people cannot conceive of the thing falling apart and everyone dying of hunger and thirst. It is rather less tropical but Put In Bay fits the bill much better.
- netflixandkill 5y ago
  The best place to get STDs in the great lakes.
runarberg 5y ago
I’m guessing they are trying to appeal to speculators who are gambling that the value of the property will increase. The business model might resemble a pyramid shape.
pavlov 5y ago
Isn’t that the exact promise of El Salvador’s Bitcoin City, except for the island part.
- narrator 5y ago
  You can already move to crypto land. You can buy residency in El Salvador for 3 bitcoin. There's even a tropical beach there. What? You don't like poor people? Tough luck pal. Besides, in your tiny little crypto island who's going to make your bed, take out the trash, make your meals and clean the toilets? Robots? Places like Aspen, or other towns for the super rich usually have a nearby middle class town for all the oompa loompahs. There's no island anywhere of only rich beautiful people.
  - shp0ngle 5y ago
    Notice how most of the people in this video are white guys. Most women are there to serve the guys. That's how it is in crypto utopia.

goodpoint 5y ago

Poe's law really applies here. I cannot believe this is not a parody.

elilev 5y ago

This looks dumb af

oleg_antonyan 5y ago

Poe's law in action: after watching this I cannot tell if this is 2nd order trolling or real thing

walrus01 5y ago

this reminds me of the crypto/seasteading bros who tried to buy a cruise ship https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/07/disastrous-voyage-satoshi-cryptocurrency-cruise-ship-seassteading https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/07/disastrous-voya... https://futurism.com/the-byte/bitcoin-cruise-ship https://futurism.com/the-byte/bitcoin-cruise-ship cryptoland, more like grift-o-land

slg 5y ago

Here[1] is an article with more details. One worrying detail is that whoever runs the Cryptoland Twitter account "joking" about the age of consent being the age of "mental maturity". It is always interesting what laws these people prioritize changing. [1] - https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n38x/cryptocurrency-investors-try-to-turn-private-islands-into-blockchain-utopias https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n38x/cryptocurrency-invest...

deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
Hamuko 5y ago
The official response to the age of consent thing was that they didn't know what "age of consent" means: https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480231356848349192 https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480231356848349192 They've also sent a C&D to someone: https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464 https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464
- slg 5y ago
  That excuse makes no sense. There is no "age allowed" to enter "any other place, like a restaurant, a resort or an amusement park". Those places all let in babies and I assume Cryptoland would too. Also how does that explain the winking emoticon?
  - hailwren 5y ago
    To be fair, not a single communique of theirs has led me to believe that English is their first language.
    - tessierashpool 5y ago
      communiqué a good example of Muphry’s Law, that every online grammar correction/complaint will contain a grammatical error. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law

ConanRus 5y ago

TigeriusKirk 5y ago

Wow. This is amazing. Worth preserving for the ages, seriously. A crypto-island scheme has been a thing since the very early days of bitcoin. None of them ever get anywhere, of course. Now that I think about it, there was some sort of bitcoiner ranch/compound/village/utopia in some place like Chile or Argentina. I think it actually did get off the ground, but I don't remember hearing any more about it. I'll have to rabbit hole that soon. EDIT- It was in Chile, and it fell apart long ago. https://www.vice.com/en/article/bn53b3/atlas-mugged-922-v21n10 https://www.vice.com/en/article/bn53b3/atlas-mugged-922-v21n...

trhway 5y ago

a shark shaped island and a "Vladimir Club" in the center! Looks like an opening of a Hawaiian themed Snatch. Vladimir dressed in lei will come personally to break your legs. If to expand the target audience beyond the crypto toward all the youngish and hip - well it looks like the Metaverse that FB wants to put the world into, no real island required.

woodruffw 5y ago

Weird sub-communities and ballpits (timestamp 5:05) are not a famously good combination.

Nextgrid 5y ago
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/dashcon https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/dashcon ?
- woodruffw 5y ago
  Yep, that was the reference.

dqpb 5y ago

I can no longer tell what is real and what is satire.

b1n 5y ago

I'm about half way through this, and I honestly can't tell whether it's satire or not. If real, this could be the "The Room" [1] of pitches. Just waiting for it to turn into a Lord of the Flies type situation. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Room

notahacker 5y ago
It would be a legitimately great setting for another incarnation of Bioshock

gfd 5y ago

What's with crypto and tropical escapes? FTX moved their headquarters to the Bahamas and now they are trying to build it into a crypto-hub too: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/sdjcH7KAxgB328RAb/ftx-ea-fellowships https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/sdjcH7KAxgB328RAb/...

pg_bot 5y ago
Most are tax havens that turn a blind eye to money laundering and other financial crimes.
TrackerFF 5y ago
Other than what's been mentioned, the "digital nomads" have a pretty long history of traveling to low-cost tropical areas, to get most bang for the buck as far living cost goes. And it makes sense. But these projects, however, I'm not sure. Maybe they really just want some secluded cult-like utopia of likeminded people. This is gonna be much more expensive than simply camping out in Thailand.

notfed 5y ago

Looks like a great place to host the next Fyre festival.

deleted 5y ago

[deleted]

deleted 5y ago

[deleted]

yawaworht1978 5y ago

For a good laugh on this matter, I recommend reading this. https://blog.mollywhite.net/cryptoland-thread/ https://blog.mollywhite.net/cryptoland-thread/ The level of incompetency and ironical jokes is overwhelming.

just-tom 5y ago
This is great.

Eighth 5y ago

Hi gang. There was an older version of this video that was released first. This newer version has a lot of changes that give a bit of an insight into how they want to present themselves. Here's a twitter thread detailing the changes: https://twitter.com/jpainio/status/1479863994387161093 https://twitter.com/jpainio/status/1479863994387161093 The raw side-by-side video is here: https://peertube.social/w/wpDMyuGRYu9ax6Xz3q9Hdi https://peertube.social/w/wpDMyuGRYu9ax6Xz3q9Hdi

mirekrusin 5y ago

This is a joke, right?

tromp 5y ago
The joke is that they really believe in their project...

amyjess 5y ago

The Cryptoland Twitter account also endorsed pedophilic grooming: https://twitter.com/widesauce/status/1478816782966136832 https://twitter.com/widesauce/status/1478816782966136832 Transcript: > Q: what will the age of consent be in Cryptoland? > A: Mental maturity should be more than enough! :) Cryptoland is either tasteless performance art or a disaster waiting to happen.

deleted 5y ago
[deleted]
ronsor 5y ago
I saw it more as Epstein's island, but on the blockchain.
mikeyouse 5y ago
Just to clarify -- it wasn't a smile at the end of their gross response, it was a winky face (only important because they're trying to deny they knew what "age of consent" meant now that they caught shit for it, but the little wink gives it away completely).

tomerv 5y ago

The full cartoon video is still on the official channel: https://youtu.be/jf3ajS5me78 https://youtu.be/jf3ajS5me78

micromacrofoot 5y ago

I guess at some point they’ll try to pivot this into “it was satire all along” to regain credibility, but there’s no wink here… someone really believes this stuff.

malkia 5y ago

Is it me, or the island looks on purpose like crocodile/alligator? heh

tim333 5y ago

Oh well at least there's a real island they are planning on "Nananu-I-Cake Fiji , South Pacific USD 12,000,000.00" https://www.privateislandsonline.com/south-pacific/fiji/nananu-i-cake-fiji https://www.privateislandsonline.com/south-pacific/fiji/nana... They are planning on selling 60 lots for ~$1m each so the maths could work.

usui 5y ago

Take a drink every time he says a word prefixed with crypto, hard liquors only

madrox 5y ago

This is the best example of Poe's Law I've ever come across [1]. I honestly can't tell if this is brutal satire or someone's legit endgame. The more I watch the more inclined to think it's satire, but there's a lot of other things in this space I didn't think could be serious that are. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

mdolon 5y ago
This must be an art project, right? Legitimately still perplexed.
- JKCalhoun 5y ago
  Guess with the "Silicon Valley" series wrapped up, writers gotta still write.
Torn 5y ago
I'd love to think it's post-irony or meta-irony[1], but really I suspect it's legit and they are trying their best. Bless. Feels like an order of magnitude more risky as an investor than Fyre festival 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsuSveDAlpI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsuSveDAlpI
ccbccccbbcccbb 5y ago
Looks like an example of the emerging genre of post-truth-quasi-parody, where if goal A fails then it is represented as goal B. Goal A is to dupe the most gullible of cryptozealots, trying to gain financially, goal B is to mock them, gaining exposure. Win-kinda-win.
me_me_me 5y ago
My opinion flipped 3 times when watching it. It like magnetic truth pole, the needle just spins.

armchairhacker 5y ago

Really impressive, this is a ton of effort for a satire piece.

Synaesthesia 5y ago

I love how the only things you can associate with crypto is scams, which are celebrated gleefully.

digitcatphd 5y ago

Fire festival on steroids

scyclow 5y ago

Oh my god, this video is incredible. Truly a work of art.

tough 5y ago

Honestly I think I could do this build an Island thing with a bunch of people much better... Might have to do it now LOL

mmmmkay 5y ago

I can't tell if this is satire or not

exdsq 5y ago

I work in blockchain; I'm getting massive Fyre Festival vibes from this crap

chenster 5y ago

Anyone noticed "OneCoin" in the video?

chenster 5y ago

Fyre 2.0

sadness3 5y ago

I'm pro-cryptocurrency generally, but I'm horrified by the crypto-as-salvation, utopianist narrative coming from some wealthy crypto proponents in denial of their own moral bankruptcy and the problem of human fallibility in general. It feels like the same crowd who are buying up places in cryostasis chambers and pinning their hopes on terraforming Mars.

zoneone 5y ago

Even the Principality of Sealand is getting in on the action: https://sealandgov.org/shop/become-a-duke-or-duchess/ https://sealandgov.org/shop/become-a-duke-or-duchess/

deleted 5y ago

[deleted]

TwoNineFive 5y ago

I watched the whooooooooooooooooooole video I've not felt like this since 1999 when I did a party with co-workers at the T1 ISP I worked for at the time. The E-Trade monkey commercial came on and we laughed. We were already reviving large number of T1/T3/Sonet disconnect orders and it was obvious the end was coming soon. I don't know when crypto will pop. I don't think we've hit max stupid yet.

throwhauser 5y ago
The stock-market valuations of the late 1990s were excessive, but the objectives of the actual companies were fairly reasonable. Trading... over the internet. Order your pet food... over the internet. Eventually many of these things actually happened, they just weren't done by the "first movers" who were represented in the stock market bubble. What's happening now, in the cryptocurrency milieu, is more deranged. It's to the point that it's making technology itself seem like a joke.
- etataetaet 5y ago
  What really got me to understand what an NFT is was a post in a gold / silver subredit. A poster asked the question "Where could I find someone who could make a physical NFT gold and silver coin". I really didn't understand what that meant so I asked. They answered that it was going to be a intricately designed coin that was a physical NFT. This physical NFT was just a coin. Nothing special, no blockchain just a coin. After this I realized that all these NFT's are completely worthless. You wouldn't buy a physical coin that some random guy (Talented artiest but still) for millions. Why would it be different if its digital? I could be wrong and NFT's will somehow become the next massive institution but I don't think so.
  - nivenkos 5y ago
    Also the point of coinage is that it is fungible, NFTs are designed to be non-fungible (and even Bitcoin if you get down to the details). Sadly crypto-currencies still haven't really solved the currency use-case.

ribs 5y ago

Is pinball making a comeback? Either way…I can see it being real. I can see it being a parody. I can see it being a parody funded by parodists but created by true believers. I can perhaps see it the other way. All the possibilities are open, just like crypto or something

olliej 5y ago

Let's ignore everything else. They're buying a private island, that would generally mean that the island is already part of a country, in which case it isn't materially different from buying a few hundred acres in rural Montana or some such. You aren't creating your own country, you're still subject to the laws of the state the island is part of. So I'm unsure if they're confused, or it's a scam. Certainly no matter what they may think, they don't get to choose their own age of consent.

motohagiography 5y ago

This is high comedy. Like alien intelligence level existential trolling. These are my people, I must find them.

Werewolf255 5y ago

So like, where does the water come from? Where does the food come from? Who does the cooking, cleaning, and essential maintenance of infrastructure? Where would these essential workers live? What would they get paid? How do you resolve disputes of who owns what hardware keys? Where do you treat sewage and waste water? Like those are just my questions on first glance. Let's not even get into the fact that the video straight up says nothing has been bought or paid for yet. It's clearly a scam, they're gonna be laughing all the way to some country that has no extradition treaty with Spain.

dustintrex 5y ago
The island (Nananu-i-Cake, pronounced roughly "nah-nah-nuh ee tha-keh") is less than 750 meters off the coast of Fiji's most populated island, Viti Levu, so piping in water, electricity etc and ferrying in workers is eminently achievable. Of course, the fact that the video doesn't mention any of this, much less trivia like the location of the bloody island, is a strong clue about how seriously this project has been planned and how seriously we should be taking it.

baby 5y ago

I watched the whole thing and I still don’t understand if this is a joke or a serious project

shp0ngle 5y ago

It's good that they started with the most important thing when they want to live on an island with no infrastructure and unclear jurisdiction. A 3D animated video. I think Taiwan and Hong Kong are looking at this with awe.

andutu 5y ago

I think this is an elaborate art project. This is mainly based off of the 2 "founders" at the end talking about the project. When they go scout for locations and one of the founders starts caressing the top of a thatch hut and the immediate next shot is a piece of paper taped to a tree with the title "Mercle Tree", that's when it clicked that this was a parody. It's scary that it took me that long to realize.

mailbag 5y ago
Art project for sure, and based on the engagement so far I'd say they've succeeded. Here is some of their previous work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBHQu4DoM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBHQu4DoM
- fortyseven 5y ago
  A film with the aspect ratio of a piece of string. Interesting approach, I guess.
SlowAndCalm 5y ago
I agree; I'll buy all 60 plots if it's real! I feel people are so overly keen on dunking on crypto at the moment, that they are blinded to agreeable satire. The proof that people claim makes it sincere isn't compelling.

deleted 5y ago

[deleted]

dumbfoundded 5y ago

Reminds me of that Futurama with Nixon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm4MH-Yf87Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm4MH-Yf87Q

deleted 5y ago

[deleted]

NicoJuicy 5y ago

This is just a scam to try to sell their NFT's, right?

tacticaldev 5y ago

Blockchain Fyre Festival?

deleted 5y ago

[deleted]

ls513 5y ago

Who's got the mirror for this video