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> Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. The entire anti-vaxxer movement makes perfect sense if you look at it like a mass psychosis of deni

by hnarn 5y ago

> Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. The entire anti-vaxxer movement makes perfect sense if you look at it like a mass psychosis of denial and a trauma response. Questioning the mainstream media is a bit of a meme these days and unfortunately most people that bring up this point have a bit of an agenda to say the least, but: One thing that’s bothered me about the MSM from the start of the pandemic is the market fueled necessity to keep pumping out “news” when nothing important has happened. Our desire to keep ourselves more informed has perhaps created this MSM monster that now through overexposure of fear and all other negative emotions that “sell” themselves are responsible for the trauma response that is conspiracy theories, flat out denial and a lack of consideration of expertise, not only for the pandemic but for climate change and much more.

xkbarkar 5y ago
I’d argue that the mandatory vaccine crowd are exactly the same. Edpecially when natural immunity is completely overlooked. Also I beleive that everytime officcials and MSM and threads like these completely undermine and ignore the millions of people who are traumatized by the pretty rough vaccine side effects ( Moderna is no joke ). these people wonder what else os being hidden. And the gap becomes wider and more fantatic. There is no anti vaxx movement. As so many people are being infected anyway, odd are they are not showing up for boosters once infected. And sinve the vaccine cards expire in 9 months (EU), you are never getting the entire EU population to show up for yearly inoculation. Especially those who got infected anyway and those who suffered pretty badly by the vaccines but are ruthelessly dismissed. Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that its impossible to keep 100% even if every single himan on the planet had access and diligently showed up ). The anti vaxx sentiment is dead. It died with omicron. In a year all but older people i the rich west and possibly health care workers will techincally be considered unvaccinated. Also, masks still made no difference in the spread. Not even a dent in Omicron. Only countries with high natural immunity has had relatively lower omicron curves. Try the antivaxxer/antimasker /smooth brain/trumpis propaganda all you want in the virtual world. In the real one, parents want their children back to school. Elderly want to enjoy the few uears they have left outside of covid prison. Young people want to meet and fuck other young people. And evrr single officcial MSM praised health expert has turned out to be not only wrong, but laid a platform for intruse sureveillance and degrading humans to nothing more than viral plague hosts that most be muffled, injected and locked up. Tldr; antivaxxer as a basis for the hatred of common hunan desire to find someone to hate is dead. Vaccines and masks are nowhere near what was promised and omicron proved it
- nicoburns 5y ago
  I find your conflation of support for vaccines with support for lockdowns rather odd, because vaccines are the main thing that lessens the need for social restrictions! > Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that its impossible to keep 100% even if every single himan on the planet had access and diligently showed up ). They are leaky, but not incredibly so. They show around 70-80% protection (with 3 doses for Omicron, 2 for earlier variants). That's a massive difference, especially when you consider that for a second-order transmission that reduces the chance by 80% of the 20% remaining, making it 95% effective and so on. As a young person who has had ongoing side effects from the vaccine, I have to say that I'm the only person I know who has had this problem. It's very rare. Similar side effects from covid itself are much more common in all demographic categories (except for moderna in young men - they should get a different vaccine).
  - ThunderSizzle 5y ago
    80% isn't protection. 80% still gets you pregnant. Honestly, it's probably healthier for everyone to turn off the news for a half year, and did not worry about it. If you get sick, take care of it. If you don't, take care of those who do. Lose weight. Exercise. Eat healthy. Live your life. Build and nurture friendships. Find and improve hobbies. Grow your family. You'll be fine until you die. But you can die any and every day for any arbitrary reason, so forget COVID and start taking care of life.
    - paulryanrogers 5y ago
      > If you get sick, take care of it. If you don't, take care of those who do. Hospitals were getting overwhelmed. So "taking care of it" for many was not as trivial as the usual flu. Consider that 40% of adults in the US are obese which is a complicating factor for unvaxed infection.
      - 5y ago

by hnarn 5y ago

xkbarkar 5y ago

I’d argue that the mandatory vaccine crowd are exactly the same. Edpecially when natural immunity is completely overlooked. Also I beleive that everytime officcials and MSM and threads like these completely undermine and ignore the millions of people who are traumatized by the pretty rough vaccine side effects ( Moderna is no joke ). these people wonder what else os being hidden. And the gap becomes wider and more fantatic. There is no anti vaxx movement. As so many people are being infected anyway, odd are they are not showing up for boosters once infected. And sinve the vaccine cards expire in 9 months (EU), you are never getting the entire EU population to show up for yearly inoculation. Especially those who got infected anyway and those who suffered pretty badly by the vaccines but are ruthelessly dismissed. Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that its impossible to keep 100% even if every single himan on the planet had access and diligently showed up ). The anti vaxx sentiment is dead. It died with omicron. In a year all but older people i the rich west and possibly health care workers will techincally be considered unvaccinated. Also, masks still made no difference in the spread. Not even a dent in Omicron. Only countries with high natural immunity has had relatively lower omicron curves. Try the antivaxxer/antimasker /smooth brain/trumpis propaganda all you want in the virtual world. In the real one, parents want their children back to school. Elderly want to enjoy the few uears they have left outside of covid prison. Young people want to meet and fuck other young people. And evrr single officcial MSM praised health expert has turned out to be not only wrong, but laid a platform for intruse sureveillance and degrading humans to nothing more than viral plague hosts that most be muffled, injected and locked up. Tldr; antivaxxer as a basis for the hatred of common hunan desire to find someone to hate is dead. Vaccines and masks are nowhere near what was promised and omicron proved it

nicoburns 5y ago
I find your conflation of support for vaccines with support for lockdowns rather odd, because vaccines are the main thing that lessens the need for social restrictions! > Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that its impossible to keep 100% even if every single himan on the planet had access and diligently showed up ). They are leaky, but not incredibly so. They show around 70-80% protection (with 3 doses for Omicron, 2 for earlier variants). That's a massive difference, especially when you consider that for a second-order transmission that reduces the chance by 80% of the 20% remaining, making it 95% effective and so on. As a young person who has had ongoing side effects from the vaccine, I have to say that I'm the only person I know who has had this problem. It's very rare. Similar side effects from covid itself are much more common in all demographic categories (except for moderna in young men - they should get a different vaccine).
- ThunderSizzle 5y ago
  80% isn't protection. 80% still gets you pregnant. Honestly, it's probably healthier for everyone to turn off the news for a half year, and did not worry about it. If you get sick, take care of it. If you don't, take care of those who do. Lose weight. Exercise. Eat healthy. Live your life. Build and nurture friendships. Find and improve hobbies. Grow your family. You'll be fine until you die. But you can die any and every day for any arbitrary reason, so forget COVID and start taking care of life.
  - paulryanrogers 5y ago
    > If you get sick, take care of it. If you don't, take care of those who do. Hospitals were getting overwhelmed. So "taking care of it" for many was not as trivial as the usual flu. Consider that 40% of adults in the US are obese which is a complicating factor for unvaxed infection.
    - 5y ago