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You're not the only one and more level-headed psychologists have warned about this pretty early last year. People are bombarded with horror news about ever risi

You're not the only one and more level-headed psychologists have warned about this pretty early last year. People are bombarded with horror news about ever rising case numbers of this 'killer virus' on a daily basis. Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. There are many documented cases in the past, but this time with the internet and our ever more connected world we seem to have a case gone global. The media plays a major part, just look at how case numbers are reported without putting them in relation to the total number of tests done. It's reported when water is tested positive for sars-cov-2, but then negative aspects of the panic are downplayed by for example reporting the increase in suicide attempts as 22.3% + 39.1% in this article. As we know from surveys the average reader will not understand this adds up to around 70% more suicide attempts since the start of the pandemic, because most people aren't good at math. I'm certain if people were bombarded with touching individual case reports of people, including children, suffering under the measures and not just under the effects of the virus, public opinion would be different. As it is the reporting is very one sided though with everyone focused on the virus to the point that nothing else matters anymore to many. It's not surprising that this can induce panic, I find it scary myself.

cma 5y ago
> It's reported when water is tested positive for sars-cov-2, but then negative aspects of the panic are downplayed by for example reporting the increase in suicide attempts as 22.3% + 39.1% in this article. As we know from surveys the average reader will not understand this adds up to around 70% more suicide attempts since the start of the pandemic, because most people aren't good at math. I think the article split those numbers out because one was in summer and the other year over year in winter: you can't just sum them because among other reasons there is a seasonality component to suicide I believe.
codingdave 5y ago
> case numbers are reported without putting them in relation to the total number of tests done. One other quirk of our society that has become clear is that what you hear in the media is absolutely correlated to which media you consume. In my experience, which is 99% reading news sites online, the testing is absolutely reported. Even emphasized, and made clear that the positivity % is a more telling metric than the number of cases. And that hospital utilization is the true metric we're trying to keep down. FWIW, 22.3% was the 2019 -> 2020 stat, and 39.1% was the 2020->2021 stat. I'm really not sure what you mean by saying that stats from two separate years add up to 70%. Especially when those number do not.
- leereeves 5y ago
  > I'm really not sure what you mean by saying that stats from two separate years add up to 70%. Especially when those number do not. Successive percentage increases multiply: 1.223 * 1.391 = 1.701193
  - codingdave 5y ago
    Ah, Thank you for clarifying.
  - sokoloff 5y ago
    But the article wasn’t reporting successive increases. The 22.3% was summer 2020 over summer 2019, while the 39.1% was the winter over the previous winter. There’s not enough information reported to conclude that those increases “stack”.
- edmcnulty101 5y ago
  >In my experience, which is 99% reading news sites online, the testing is absolutely reported I've never ONCE in years, seen cases reported along with tests given and I look at sites of all political ideologies. You can go look in the front page of the New York times right now and there's just case counts with no indication of how many tests have been given. Same with WaPo. It kind of boggles my mind how you could even say that. That's kind of evidence of mass formation psychosis?
- Breazy 5y ago
hnarn 5y ago
> Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. The entire anti-vaxxer movement makes perfect sense if you look at it like a mass psychosis of denial and a trauma response. Questioning the mainstream media is a bit of a meme these days and unfortunately most people that bring up this point have a bit of an agenda to say the least, but: One thing that’s bothered me about the MSM from the start of the pandemic is the market fueled necessity to keep pumping out “news” when nothing important has happened. Our desire to keep ourselves more informed has perhaps created this MSM monster that now through overexposure of fear and all other negative emotions that “sell” themselves are responsible for the trauma response that is conspiracy theories, flat out denial and a lack of consideration of expertise, not only for the pandemic but for climate change and much more.
- xkbarkar 5y ago
  I’d argue that the mandatory vaccine crowd are exactly the same. Edpecially when natural immunity is completely overlooked. Also I beleive that everytime officcials and MSM and threads like these completely undermine and ignore the millions of people who are traumatized by the pretty rough vaccine side effects ( Moderna is no joke ). these people wonder what else os being hidden. And the gap becomes wider and more fantatic. There is no anti vaxx movement. As so many people are being infected anyway, odd are they are not showing up for boosters once infected. And sinve the vaccine cards expire in 9 months (EU), you are never getting the entire EU population to show up for yearly inoculation. Especially those who got infected anyway and those who suffered pretty badly by the vaccines but are ruthelessly dismissed. Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that its impossible to keep 100% even if every single himan on the planet had access and diligently showed up ). The anti vaxx sentiment is dead. It died with omicron. In a year all but older people i the rich west and possibly health care workers will techincally be considered unvaccinated. Also, masks still made no difference in the spread. Not even a dent in Omicron. Only countries with high natural immunity has had relatively lower omicron curves. Try the antivaxxer/antimasker /smooth brain/trumpis propaganda all you want in the virtual world. In the real one, parents want their children back to school. Elderly want to enjoy the few uears they have left outside of covid prison. Young people want to meet and fuck other young people. And evrr single officcial MSM praised health expert has turned out to be not only wrong, but laid a platform for intruse sureveillance and degrading humans to nothing more than viral plague hosts that most be muffled, injected and locked up. Tldr; antivaxxer as a basis for the hatred of common hunan desire to find someone to hate is dead. Vaccines and masks are nowhere near what was promised and omicron proved it
bobbyasdfasdf7 5y ago

cma 5y ago

> It's reported when water is tested positive for sars-cov-2, but then negative aspects of the panic are downplayed by for example reporting the increase in suicide attempts as 22.3% + 39.1% in this article. As we know from surveys the average reader will not understand this adds up to around 70% more suicide attempts since the start of the pandemic, because most people aren't good at math. I think the article split those numbers out because one was in summer and the other year over year in winter: you can't just sum them because among other reasons there is a seasonality component to suicide I believe.

codingdave 5y ago

> case numbers are reported without putting them in relation to the total number of tests done. One other quirk of our society that has become clear is that what you hear in the media is absolutely correlated to which media you consume. In my experience, which is 99% reading news sites online, the testing is absolutely reported. Even emphasized, and made clear that the positivity % is a more telling metric than the number of cases. And that hospital utilization is the true metric we're trying to keep down. FWIW, 22.3% was the 2019 -> 2020 stat, and 39.1% was the 2020->2021 stat. I'm really not sure what you mean by saying that stats from two separate years add up to 70%. Especially when those number do not.

leereeves 5y ago
> I'm really not sure what you mean by saying that stats from two separate years add up to 70%. Especially when those number do not. Successive percentage increases multiply: 1.223 * 1.391 = 1.701193
- codingdave 5y ago
  Ah, Thank you for clarifying.
- sokoloff 5y ago
  But the article wasn’t reporting successive increases. The 22.3% was summer 2020 over summer 2019, while the 39.1% was the winter over the previous winter. There’s not enough information reported to conclude that those increases “stack”.
edmcnulty101 5y ago
>In my experience, which is 99% reading news sites online, the testing is absolutely reported I've never ONCE in years, seen cases reported along with tests given and I look at sites of all political ideologies. You can go look in the front page of the New York times right now and there's just case counts with no indication of how many tests have been given. Same with WaPo. It kind of boggles my mind how you could even say that. That's kind of evidence of mass formation psychosis?
Breazy 5y ago

hnarn 5y ago

> Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. The entire anti-vaxxer movement makes perfect sense if you look at it like a mass psychosis of denial and a trauma response. Questioning the mainstream media is a bit of a meme these days and unfortunately most people that bring up this point have a bit of an agenda to say the least, but: One thing that’s bothered me about the MSM from the start of the pandemic is the market fueled necessity to keep pumping out “news” when nothing important has happened. Our desire to keep ourselves more informed has perhaps created this MSM monster that now through overexposure of fear and all other negative emotions that “sell” themselves are responsible for the trauma response that is conspiracy theories, flat out denial and a lack of consideration of expertise, not only for the pandemic but for climate change and much more.

xkbarkar 5y ago
I’d argue that the mandatory vaccine crowd are exactly the same. Edpecially when natural immunity is completely overlooked. Also I beleive that everytime officcials and MSM and threads like these completely undermine and ignore the millions of people who are traumatized by the pretty rough vaccine side effects ( Moderna is no joke ). these people wonder what else os being hidden. And the gap becomes wider and more fantatic. There is no anti vaxx movement. As so many people are being infected anyway, odd are they are not showing up for boosters once infected. And sinve the vaccine cards expire in 9 months (EU), you are never getting the entire EU population to show up for yearly inoculation. Especially those who got infected anyway and those who suffered pretty badly by the vaccines but are ruthelessly dismissed. Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that its impossible to keep 100% even if every single himan on the planet had access and diligently showed up ). The anti vaxx sentiment is dead. It died with omicron. In a year all but older people i the rich west and possibly health care workers will techincally be considered unvaccinated. Also, masks still made no difference in the spread. Not even a dent in Omicron. Only countries with high natural immunity has had relatively lower omicron curves. Try the antivaxxer/antimasker /smooth brain/trumpis propaganda all you want in the virtual world. In the real one, parents want their children back to school. Elderly want to enjoy the few uears they have left outside of covid prison. Young people want to meet and fuck other young people. And evrr single officcial MSM praised health expert has turned out to be not only wrong, but laid a platform for intruse sureveillance and degrading humans to nothing more than viral plague hosts that most be muffled, injected and locked up. Tldr; antivaxxer as a basis for the hatred of common hunan desire to find someone to hate is dead. Vaccines and masks are nowhere near what was promised and omicron proved it

bobbyasdfasdf7 5y ago