> how do I help society by vaccinating? Judging by the contemporary info out there -- I don't in any way or form. > So it's okay if people die of taking the vac

> how do I help society by vaccinating? Judging by the contemporary info out there -- I don't in any way or form. > So it's okay if people die of taking the vaccine but it's not okay if they die of Covid? Got it, thanks. The US is sitting on 860K deaths from 60m cases. A bit over 1%. Vaccine related deaths are about 6k2 in 187m people. Or 0.0018%. It's only no help if you consider reducing deaths by orders of magnitude and freeing up resources for the more needy "nothing". You also need to stop thinking about individuals when talking about public health policies. It sucks but at population levels you're talking about millions of faceless individuals. Edit: I should really have tried to find deaths in fully vaccinated individuals vs unvaccinated. E.g https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02316-3/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... Within the vaccine-eligible population of Scotland aged 65–79 years, the death rate per 10 000 person-years was 64·8 for unvaccinated individuals and 4·2 for fully vaccinated individuals. This difference in death rate was most marked in the population older than 80 years (14·0 deaths per 10 000 person-years for fully vaccinated vs 420·1 deaths per 10 000 person-years for unvaccinated individuals older than 80 years) but attenuated in individuals aged 18–64 years (0·8 deaths per 10 000 person-years for fully vaccinated vs 3·1 deaths per 10 000 person-years for unvaccinated individuals aged 18–64 years). For fully vaccinated individuals who subsequently tested positive, there was a median of 8·0 days (IQR 5–13) between a positive test and dying of COVID-19.