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Not allowed to play this as I live in NJ. :)
by larrybud 5y ago
Not allowed to play this as I live in NJ. :)
- mixologic 5y agoSame. In OR.
- davidw 5y agoIf they got the dates just right, I think the legalized it for a little bit during the pandemic. Also, you can pump your own gas in certain rural areas now.
- seattle_spring 5y agoI'll come play it for you, for $15 an hour.
- kingcharles 5y agoPlus tips.
- seattle_spring 5y agoYou definitely aren't expected to tip pump employees in Oregon. ... but yeah, $15 plus tips for this game B)
- karaterobot 5y agoWait, really? I'm in WA, and I tip every time I go through there. I asked the first time whether it was appropriate to tip, and the guy was like "uhh, yeah!" so I've never asked again.
- gcheong 5y agoI’m sure it was much appreciated but it’s never expected.
- seattle_spring 5y agoNah definitely not expected. They know they're a charity case as it is. Sometimes it's nice to tip if the weather is bad.
- eatbitseveryday 5y agoNot true if your vehicle uses diesel.
- mixologic 5y agoI did used to have a diesel Winnebago, and did pump my own gas. It's the sort of loophole that causes the whole scheme to seem non-sensiscal.
- cleansingfire 5y agoDiesel is MUCH less flammable than gasoline. This actually supports the safety argument.
- umvi 5y agoI read the law, and... wow. Talk about nannying. The whole law basically amounts to "the government needs to impose more control and restrictions in order to keep citizens safe" > Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act > a. Because of the fire hazards directly associated with dispensing fuel, it is in the public interest that gasoline station operators have the control needed over that activity to ensure compliance with appropriate safety procedures, including turning off vehicle engines and refraining from smoking while fuel is dispensed. > b. At self-service gasoline stations in other states, cashiers are often unable to maintain a clear view of the activities of customers dispensing gasoline, or to give their undivided attention to observing customers; therefore, when customers, rather than attendants, are permitted to dispense fuel, it is far more difficult to enforce compliance with safety procedures > c. The State needs stronger measures to enforce both compliance by customers with the ban on self-service and compliance by attendants with safety procedures > e. Exposure to toxic gasoline fumes represents a health hazard when customers dispense their own gasoline, particularly in the case of pregnant women https://www.nj.gov/labor/safetyandhealth/resources-support/laws-regulations/gasact.shtml#3A-4 https://www.nj.gov/labor/safetyandhealth/resources-support/l...
- NikolaeVarius 5y agoI highly doubt its actually about safety and more about just making jobs.
- jkepler 5y agoI grew up there, and always heard that full-serve only was about jobs.
- astura 5y agoNowadays it's probably 44% jobs, 44% people simply like the service and 2% safety.
- awb 5y agoProbably 95% jobs, 5% safety. https://jwkblog.com/wordpress/fire-at-gas-stations-some-facts-some-statistics-and-some-prevention-tips/ https://jwkblog.com/wordpress/fire-at-gas-stations-some-fact... 5k fires/year, 61% involving vehicles so about 3k fires/year, presumably from pumping gas. But given how many billions (or maybe even trillions) of customer-pump interactions per year that’s a really low incident rate. It would be interesting to see if NJ and OR with no self-serve have dramatically lower rates but I couldn’t find that info.
- zikduruqe 5y agoA relative moved away from NJ to where we live. They were in their late-20's. I had to teach them how to pump gas because they had never done it before.
- dunham 5y agoI got to experience this while driving through Oregon. I ended up with a check engine light because the guy didn't screw the gas cap back on correctly.
- larrybud 5y agoObligatory HN angle: I’ve often hypothesized that if credit cards in the US were chip and pin (like the rest of the world), NJ would support self serve in a microsecond. Eg no way would customers be comfortable handing their card over then shouting out their pin to rue attendant.
- maxerickson 5y agoWhy would the implementation of it require that? Wireless terminals are long since a thing.
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- bruce511 5y agoHypothesizing is good. Getting data to validate or invalidate your hypothesis is better. In South Africa they use chip and pin (also tap and go for small amounts, and tap and pin for larger amounts. Most gas is tap and pin). Incidentally there is also no self-service for gas country wide. The way it works is that each pump has a portable wireless card machine. The attendant fills in the amount, you tap, and if necessary he hands you the machine to enter a pin. They look away (in an obvious manner) for this step. He doesn't handle your card. Incidentally this is true mostly everywhere - you handle your card, not the vendor. Obviously you never give your PIN to anyone - much less shout it across a forecourt.
- larrybud 5y agoSadly in the USA the prevalence of wireless cc terminals is amazingly low; even in restaurants you hardly ever see them, although this is getting by better, and (same hypothesis) would likely change if chip and pin was required here