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Google is _the worst_ for that. At least hCaptcha is a bit less culturally specific. Every time Google blocks me for refusing to label a motorbike as a "bicycl

Google is _the worst_ for that. At least hCaptcha is a bit less culturally specific. Every time Google blocks me for refusing to label a motorbike as a "bicycle" I get utterly pissed off. And likewise with the traffic lights on the californian skies. Are the traffic lights the actual lights themselves, or the boom holding them up? I'm not a human very often, according to Google. hCaptcha tends to let me in...

rosndo 5y ago
- azalemeth 5y ago
  Don't forget that Recaptcha magically works better in Chrome, and even bettery-better if you're logged into a Google account. In FF (with tracking protection) you can expect to see the enforced wait and "Please try again". Honestly, it's awful. Half the time I have to second-guess what the average American would think which of the (noise-added, corrupted) images matches the description.
  - deadbunny 5y ago
    The reCaptcha check boxes straight up fail for me now in FF on Linux, have done for a few months.
- geoduck14 5y ago
  Your comment suggests you would exchange money for an assassination. I know you are joking (right?), but this is not something that you should joke about.
  - rosndo 5y ago
    Oh no, I’d absolutely chip in. These people certainly deserve it.
    - skinnymuch 5y ago
      Shouldn’t do this no matter what ofc. But why the devs? Sure the devs are well paid and privileged. That’s mostly relative to others in society. They are still more cogs than anything.
      - rosndo 5y ago
        Easier target, a couple of google devs hanging on a public square would do much to disincentivize others from working on similar products in the future. At least executives can dream of hiding behind private security, for mere developers earning 300k/yr the situation isn’t so rosy.
        skinnymuch 5y ago
        It wouldn’t really disincentivize that much. You aren’t grasping the status quo and power dynamics of all of this. Double that $300K and even i would strongly consider risking my life for that amount of money for some time. That money is peanuts in the scheme of things but is enormous to many, many people. Seriously. If Google doubled that money and the only way for me to be safe would be to stay in some glorified prison while working, I’d probably do it for a few years. All you’re doing is pointing out how bad the power dynamics are and attacking the weakest and least powerful parts of said dynamics. When there are so many simple ways to get around this sort of scheming. Mine is one example. When you’re talking about cogs. It is extremely easy to replace them. It is sad you want to attack the working class (in this situation it’s privileged workers making a lot but in terms of the system, they fit into this).
jokethrowaway 5y ago
I disagree, Google captchas in my experience are much quicker compared to hcaptcha When cloudflare switched to hcaptcha I definitely noticed it.
- SXX 5y ago
  Sorry, but Google captcha is specifically designed to annoy real people in some cases. They literally implemented slow fade-in / fade-out for images. This does absolutely nothing against actual bots, but annoying as hell for a real person. Literally any other captcha is better than this.
  - jandrese 5y ago
    I thought the fade thing was specifically to trip up bots. Like bots know what the picture is long before it is shown to the user, so if the bot clicks on it then the CAPCHA knows something is up.
    - justsomehnguy 5y ago
      Which is solved exactly after this is encountered the first time, eg if opacity -ne 100% do_not_click_yet = true So this is totally useless to prevent bots from solving it.
      - pbhjpbhj 5y ago
        Surely then they look at timing, people will click anywhere from, let's say 50% opacity, but bots always wait?
        bluGill 5y ago
        Easy for a bot to fake that with a random number generator. If nothing else bot authors can collect their own statistics. I understand the bots have an army of people in the background for images they don't understand yet, just collect timing data from that set and have your random number generator emulate that timing data. (I'm guessing a bell curve)
Tijdreiziger 5y ago
> I'm not a human very often, according to Google. "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog." (Well, except Google, it seems.)
gnabgib 5y ago
I recently failed a google-bicycle captcha.. "you can't fool me, that's a motorcycle not a bicycle!" I thought.. and then had to complete 2 more challenges. Including a cross walk one where one of the images was just asphalt and painted lines (no context/edges so it could be a parking lot, and airstrip,a highway, an intersection, or a cross-walk).
short12 5y ago
Googles own captchas are Satan. Squiggly lines all over the place. Why they don't use the normally accepted captcha is beyond me
MrCapybara 5y ago
That same case happened to me! Another example is Parking Meters, they don't exist in my country and I'd never seen them before.
rpaddock 5y ago
They also claim that Tigers are not "Cats". "Please select all the Cats" then shows picture of a tiger among the common House Cats.
reaperducer 5y ago
I'm not a human very often, according to Google If Google says you're a robot, it must be true! You should behave accordingly. There's actually a comic strip in the newspaper going through this storyline right now. Brewster Rockit: Space Guy! was told by a CAPTCHA that he's a robot, so he's going through life that way. The other robots do not seem to be happy to have him as part of their culture. http://www.brewsterrockit.com http://www.brewsterrockit.com
ValentineC 5y ago
> Google is _the worst_ for that. At least hCaptcha is a bit less culturally specific. One example I keep ranting about: I think countries outside the US have different terms for "crosswalks". I personally know them as "zebra crossings", and it took a while for the reCaptcha request to click in my mind.
- Handytinge 5y ago
  Pedestrian crossings here. I'd also not heard the term "crosswalk" until reCaptcha. Yet another bullshit Americanisation infecting the worlds culture.

rosndo 5y ago

azalemeth 5y ago
Don't forget that Recaptcha magically works better in Chrome, and even bettery-better if you're logged into a Google account. In FF (with tracking protection) you can expect to see the enforced wait and "Please try again". Honestly, it's awful. Half the time I have to second-guess what the average American would think which of the (noise-added, corrupted) images matches the description.
- deadbunny 5y ago
  The reCaptcha check boxes straight up fail for me now in FF on Linux, have done for a few months.
geoduck14 5y ago
Your comment suggests you would exchange money for an assassination. I know you are joking (right?), but this is not something that you should joke about.
- rosndo 5y ago
  Oh no, I’d absolutely chip in. These people certainly deserve it.
  - skinnymuch 5y ago
    Shouldn’t do this no matter what ofc. But why the devs? Sure the devs are well paid and privileged. That’s mostly relative to others in society. They are still more cogs than anything.
    - rosndo 5y ago
      Easier target, a couple of google devs hanging on a public square would do much to disincentivize others from working on similar products in the future. At least executives can dream of hiding behind private security, for mere developers earning 300k/yr the situation isn’t so rosy.
      - skinnymuch 5y ago
        It wouldn’t really disincentivize that much. You aren’t grasping the status quo and power dynamics of all of this. Double that $300K and even i would strongly consider risking my life for that amount of money for some time. That money is peanuts in the scheme of things but is enormous to many, many people. Seriously. If Google doubled that money and the only way for me to be safe would be to stay in some glorified prison while working, I’d probably do it for a few years. All you’re doing is pointing out how bad the power dynamics are and attacking the weakest and least powerful parts of said dynamics. When there are so many simple ways to get around this sort of scheming. Mine is one example. When you’re talking about cogs. It is extremely easy to replace them. It is sad you want to attack the working class (in this situation it’s privileged workers making a lot but in terms of the system, they fit into this).

jokethrowaway 5y ago

I disagree, Google captchas in my experience are much quicker compared to hcaptcha When cloudflare switched to hcaptcha I definitely noticed it.

SXX 5y ago
Sorry, but Google captcha is specifically designed to annoy real people in some cases. They literally implemented slow fade-in / fade-out for images. This does absolutely nothing against actual bots, but annoying as hell for a real person. Literally any other captcha is better than this.
- jandrese 5y ago
  I thought the fade thing was specifically to trip up bots. Like bots know what the picture is long before it is shown to the user, so if the bot clicks on it then the CAPCHA knows something is up.
  - justsomehnguy 5y ago
    Which is solved exactly after this is encountered the first time, eg if opacity -ne 100% do_not_click_yet = true So this is totally useless to prevent bots from solving it.
    - pbhjpbhj 5y ago
      Surely then they look at timing, people will click anywhere from, let's say 50% opacity, but bots always wait?
      - bluGill 5y ago
        Easy for a bot to fake that with a random number generator. If nothing else bot authors can collect their own statistics. I understand the bots have an army of people in the background for images they don't understand yet, just collect timing data from that set and have your random number generator emulate that timing data. (I'm guessing a bell curve)

Tijdreiziger 5y ago

> I'm not a human very often, according to Google. "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog." (Well, except Google, it seems.)

gnabgib 5y ago

I recently failed a google-bicycle captcha.. "you can't fool me, that's a motorcycle not a bicycle!" I thought.. and then had to complete 2 more challenges. Including a cross walk one where one of the images was just asphalt and painted lines (no context/edges so it could be a parking lot, and airstrip,a highway, an intersection, or a cross-walk).

short12 5y ago

Googles own captchas are Satan. Squiggly lines all over the place. Why they don't use the normally accepted captcha is beyond me

MrCapybara 5y ago

That same case happened to me! Another example is Parking Meters, they don't exist in my country and I'd never seen them before.

rpaddock 5y ago

They also claim that Tigers are not "Cats". "Please select all the Cats" then shows picture of a tiger among the common House Cats.

reaperducer 5y ago

I'm not a human very often, according to Google If Google says you're a robot, it must be true! You should behave accordingly. There's actually a comic strip in the newspaper going through this storyline right now. Brewster Rockit: Space Guy! was told by a CAPTCHA that he's a robot, so he's going through life that way. The other robots do not seem to be happy to have him as part of their culture. http://www.brewsterrockit.com http://www.brewsterrockit.com

ValentineC 5y ago

> Google is _the worst_ for that. At least hCaptcha is a bit less culturally specific. One example I keep ranting about: I think countries outside the US have different terms for "crosswalks". I personally know them as "zebra crossings", and it took a while for the reCaptcha request to click in my mind.

Handytinge 5y ago
Pedestrian crossings here. I'd also not heard the term "crosswalk" until reCaptcha. Yet another bullshit Americanisation infecting the worlds culture.