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Very interesting, I didn't expect the accuracy and detail in this data. All of my pay from Intel, Google, Facebook is in here. Qualcomm apparently did not repo
by mgraczyk 5y ago
Very interesting, I didn't expect the accuracy and detail in this data.
All of my pay from Intel, Google, Facebook is in here. Qualcomm apparently did not report.
Also, Google (my latest employer) pulled the data just before I started working, after giving me an offer. My credit card company pulls the data every month, sometimes 2-3 times per month. Several mortgage originators have also pulled the data even though I have not gotten a mortgage (I probably filled out a form on their website).
I guess I'm okay with credit card companies monitoring this, but I'm not sure I am okay with potential employers having access to this. Is it even legal in California for them to read this information? Maybe it was legal at the time but not any more?
- hypothesis 5y agoIf they pulled salary info after making an offer, then this is likely qualified as verification of data that prospective employee submitted. They can probably revoke that offer if one provided misleading info during application.
- staunch 5y agoThat's some shady behavior though. The whole point of the law is to prevent companies from penalizing employees based on prior salaries. Wouldn't be surprising if Google was finding excuses to retract offers based on seeing that they "overbid" on someone's comp. If anyone has had suspicious stuff like this happen, it sounds like it'd make a great lawsuit. Would be nice if some journalist(s) made a big stink out of Google finding a loophole in this employee protection law.
- mgraczyk 5y agoWell I'm pretty sure I did consent to it, at least.
- hypothesis 5y agoThe scenario I had in mind would pertain to California where they aren’t allowed to ask your salary history. So if one didn’t not disclose salary info, then offer was likely not based on that info (nor on work number info). In which case they can’t pull offer due to misleading salary info. However, all bets are likely off in states with no such protection…
- adwww 5y agoI'm currently interviewing for a new role, and I've already been told my expected salary is too low for me to be a senior engineer. Hardly my fault I didn't know to ask for a higher amount?! Will obviously be challenging this if I get an offer...
- kache_ 5y agojust work for 4 months and job hop. If they play games, play them too.
- what_ever 5y agoDoes the system not ask for SSN to pull this data? If yes, how did Google get your SSN? Disc: Googler.
- lumost 5y agoIIRC Google requests SSN data for all applicants ahead of interview.
- what_ever 5y agoNope. Didn't in my case.
- f154hfds 5y agoIf you work in the US you should be getting a W2 from Google in a month or two. The top left corner will contain your SSN or it's an invalid W2 because the IRS won't be able to verify this is your W2 when you submit it with your tax return.
- diebeforei485 5y agoThere are exceptions to this. For example, the W2 can state "Applied for" instead of having a number.
- what_ever 5y agoYes, as I said from the other comment, I provided that when I started. From GP's comment, I thought they are saying they had to provide the SSN before they started.
- hansvm 5y agoGoogle asks for SSN for background checks and whatnot.
- smachiz 5y agoSSN and proof of citizenship are required for all US companies to employ someone. It's not just background checks.
- wheelinsupial 5y agoDoes the data contain start and end dates for each employer?
- juancb 5y agoYes it does.
- int_19h 5y ago> I'm okay with credit card companies monitoring this I'm not. If they want to know, they can ask me for a paystub.
- kube-system 5y agoCredit card companies do ask for permission to pull financial information from brokers when you sign up.
- xfz 5y agoWhat if you say no? It's not really consent if declining affects your chances of getting credit or, worse, employment.
- tinco 5y agoYes it is, this is literally how credit works. You convince them you're credit worthy, they give you credit. If you don't like the particular information a credit company needs to trust you, then you try a different credit company. I don't follow how declining a credit company would affect your employment, is there something I'm missing there?
- stathibus 5y agoHaving credit is not optional in modern society.
- kube-system 5y agoIn the US, where credit cards are notably popular, 70-72% of people have a credit card. In other countries, it is less than this.
- stathibus 5y agoEven if you don't have a credit card you may have a mortgage, or a car loan, or a business loan, or... To have none of those things in the US you must be either very rich, very poor, or dependent on someone else who does.
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