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Are you building features for phishers?
- croes 5y agoNever click the link in an email to access your account, never trust a caller who calls you first, you call them. And don't use the number from the email.
- bradleyjkemp 5y agoDefense in depth is a worthy goal though You'll never get 100% of people remembering that advice 100% of the time. So how do you mitigate the situation when they forget?
- mavelikara 5y ago> Never click the link in an email to access your account Now that you mention it, I noticed that I do this routinely. How do I handle "reset password" situation? I don't remember if the services I have used offer other means of going to the password reset link.
- Brajeshwar 5y agoI do this and have been teaching my family too. Recently, my daughter got her Roblox merchandise emptied after she clicked a link from Discord. I looked and rough math put at close to $1000 worth of Robux (when converted if I have to buy the Robux). This happened after she figured out to turn off all ad-blockers, NextDNS, from the client side. Now, I have migrated the VPN-ish-DNS at the Profile Config level and have told here that the blockers in the browsers are for her safety. She cried the whole day, until I agreed and bought her few Robux to go on. Phone calls and text messages are the ones I have no control whatsoever, so I try to avoid them at all cost, not just for security but they are irritating most of the times. I stopped voice few years back - https://no.phone.wtf https://no.phone.wtf
- aclelland 5y agoDid she need to do anything after clicking the link in Discord or was the exploit completely automated? My kids have just started to get in to Roblox, not bought anything yet but I expect it'll happen soon enough.
- Brajeshwar 5y agoFrom her story, she clicked a link that starts with `wrww-roblox.com` and seems nothing happened. She went about her day, slept, and found out that her account was empty when she wakes up. The person might have been following her around for a while and some of her rare merchandizes had started attracting unwanted attention. She says she had been playing with the person for a while, and she missed the link that was NOT Roblox.
- causi 5y agoI worry technology is so easy today's kids are less tech-savvy than their parents, which is a terrifying concept to me.
- raverbashing 5y agoReally. This worries me as well We are seeing young people that can't work around Word/Excel (sure, or their cloud equivalent) to do basic tasks like creating a table or basic formatting
- causi 5y agoWhen I was in high school we traded files amongst ourselves using burned CDs and flash drives. My nieces and nephews don't understand what a file format is.
- netizen-936824 5y agoThank goodness Microsoft hides file extensions by default. We wouldn't want these children learning! Major /s
- wizzwizz4 5y agoToday's technology isn't easier: it's just more restricted. The things you can do are pre-programmed and individually specified, rather than emergent from the design of the system, which means there's much less common logic to it.
- netizen-936824 5y agoI think the parent is conflating easiness with lack of complexity. Lack of complexity does make doing things less confusing if you have less options to choose from
- marcosdumay 5y agoI don't worry much. I'd prefer if they knew more, but somehow kids were always able to learn the sciences or engineering. Just because they don't learn on their own, it doesn't mean they'll never know it.
- aflag 5y agoWhy did she want the ad blockers off?
- hutzlibu 5y agoProbably because some things do not work with them.
- mattigames 5y agoYou could add to your company emails "we will never call you about this email, if someone is calling you about it you may be being targeted by criminals"
- bradleyjkemp 5y agoGood sentiment but so so tricky to get the wording right. You've got to write a sentence so perfect the fraudster can't pervert it or persuade the victim to ignore it. For your example, the fraudster could say "yes, your account is being targeted by criminals, that's why I'm calling you". The warning inadvertently backs up their story
- mattigames 5y agoIt feels like a bit of a stretch "so you are calling me to tell me about criminals after you said you would never call me because that's what criminals do?" If their intelligence is that low at that point the criminals can skip all these hoops and directly ask them for their credit card numbers saying they are from the bank and they need to verify them.
- aflag 5y agoDepending on how you read the sentence, it may mean that they will not call you about that specific email, but they will call you if you're being targeted by criminals. So the caller says "I'm not calling you about a specific email that you're received, but because your account is being targeted by criminals". It's not about having low intelligence. It's about being caught off guard. Not everyone is in a big city and have constant contact with fraudsters. Some people are in small towns where they trust everyone and when they receive a call from the supermarket or some other place they usually just trust them too. So, they are not attempting to find all the flaws in their reasoning, they may just think that the wording was a bit off, but an understandable mistake and continue the conversation.
- blooalien 5y ago