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> Fully vaccinated and boosted three weeks ago, caught it anyway. Vaccines do not prevent contagion but reduce the chances of severe symptoms. Also AFAIK vacc

by pier25 5y ago

> Fully vaccinated and boosted three weeks ago, caught it anyway. Vaccines do not prevent contagion but reduce the chances of severe symptoms. Also AFAIK vaccines do not lower transmission either.

pavon 5y ago
In general, vaccines do lower transmission, by decreasing the viral load and duration of infection. Of course when you are dealing with a mutation that the vaccine has low effectiveness against, that is all out the window.
- EA 5y ago
  The vaccine also reduces the symptoms of the virus and so a carrier of the virus may seem well but actually transfer the virus to someone else as they are less likely to quarantine if they are not tested or showing symptoms. The vaccine also gives one a sense of protection from infection and so they are more likely to attend mass gatherings. where the virus can be transferred.
Scoundreller 5y ago
If a vaccine reduces your cough/oozing orifice severity, wouldn’t that reduce transmission?
- gopalv 5y ago
  > wouldn’t that reduce transmission? Lowered symptoms on droplets would be better, but a lot of in-person workplaces have a "do you have a fever?" check before they issue you any sick leave. Not having a fever and looking like a mild cold in winter would cause at least my cousin's employer to ask her to come in and wear a mask at work (manufacturing, so she wears a P100 respirator anyway).
- pier25 5y ago
  Technically yes, but see this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29826355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29826355
  - CamperBob2 5y ago
    Exactly, and that comment is why mask usage in public is still important. The two-pronged approach of masking and vaccination was always going to be our best way out of this, and nothing about Omicron fundamentally changes that. Try not to get sick. If you do get sick, don't spread it. If you do spread it, try to spread less of it. Defense in depth.
  - lovecg 5y ago
    This is the “not wearing a bike helmet will make car drivers around you more careful” level argument. Let’s see some hard data please.
    - pier25 5y ago
      Obviously it's way too early to have hard data on this matter. But the WHO has been warning about this for months. > We cannot say this clearly enough: even if you are vaccinated, continue to take precautions to prevent becoming infected yourself, and to infecting someone else who could die. > In many countries and communities, we are concerned about a false sense of security that vaccines have ended the pandemic, and that people who are vaccinated do not need to take any other precautions. https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---24-november-2021 https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-dir...

by pier25 5y ago

> Fully vaccinated and boosted three weeks ago, caught it anyway. Vaccines do not prevent contagion but reduce the chances of severe symptoms. Also AFAIK vaccines do not lower transmission either.

pavon 5y ago

In general, vaccines do lower transmission, by decreasing the viral load and duration of infection. Of course when you are dealing with a mutation that the vaccine has low effectiveness against, that is all out the window.

EA 5y ago
The vaccine also reduces the symptoms of the virus and so a carrier of the virus may seem well but actually transfer the virus to someone else as they are less likely to quarantine if they are not tested or showing symptoms. The vaccine also gives one a sense of protection from infection and so they are more likely to attend mass gatherings. where the virus can be transferred.

Scoundreller 5y ago

If a vaccine reduces your cough/oozing orifice severity, wouldn’t that reduce transmission?

gopalv 5y ago
> wouldn’t that reduce transmission? Lowered symptoms on droplets would be better, but a lot of in-person workplaces have a "do you have a fever?" check before they issue you any sick leave. Not having a fever and looking like a mild cold in winter would cause at least my cousin's employer to ask her to come in and wear a mask at work (manufacturing, so she wears a P100 respirator anyway).
pier25 5y ago
Technically yes, but see this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29826355 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29826355
- CamperBob2 5y ago
  Exactly, and that comment is why mask usage in public is still important. The two-pronged approach of masking and vaccination was always going to be our best way out of this, and nothing about Omicron fundamentally changes that. Try not to get sick. If you do get sick, don't spread it. If you do spread it, try to spread less of it. Defense in depth.
- lovecg 5y ago
  This is the “not wearing a bike helmet will make car drivers around you more careful” level argument. Let’s see some hard data please.
  - pier25 5y ago
    Obviously it's way too early to have hard data on this matter. But the WHO has been warning about this for months. > We cannot say this clearly enough: even if you are vaccinated, continue to take precautions to prevent becoming infected yourself, and to infecting someone else who could die. > In many countries and communities, we are concerned about a false sense of security that vaccines have ended the pandemic, and that people who are vaccinated do not need to take any other precautions. https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---24-november-2021 https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-dir...