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I agree in theory, but disagree in practice. Covid lockdowns taught me the general public is superb at wasting time and being inefficient. Their mind turned to

by czbond 5y ago

I agree in theory, but disagree in practice. Covid lockdowns taught me the general public is superb at wasting time and being inefficient. Their mind turned to Netflixing all day, making Tiktok dance numbers, etc. I am bullish on machines & software improving because people are incentivized through salaries to improve them. I am bearish / pessimistic on the average humans productive use of time outside of amusement or relaxation. Humanity has taught me that Pareto's principle applies to humans.

tehjoker 5y ago
Why shouldn't they relax if they can? It's bizarre to me that we need to regiment the entire population in order to... make sure people don't have fun?
- czbond 5y ago
  Whether it is human nature, or learned behavior, the typical human is unable to fill their time with productive use over a longer period of time unless purpose is imposed on them. Hence "work". The concept in a more general term is even mentioned in religious text so there must be a basis....
  - tehjoker 5y ago
    This is puritanism. There is something to the idea that idle hands make for the devils workshop, but that's mainly when people are dissatisfied. If they're satisfied, let them play pokemon cards or whatever it is they do. You only get one life.
    - czbond 5y ago
      I believe at a higher level, a universe level, rather than a human level - human natural state must be an equilibrium of "energy" & detriment. (energy is a meta concept crossing domains here, stay with me). Humans consume energy (animals, resources) and create detriment (greenhouse gases, etc) - and must offset all of those to positively benefit the Earth or else that (and each) particular human is a net negative to the Earth. If a human is a net negative, at a higher level why should that person exist? Humans must each therefore cause a positive net of energy to the Earth through creating useful, productive, additions to the universe to push it forward. Otherwise, as in the matrix, said human is a parasite.
  - sitkack 5y ago
    You see what you seek. I saw amazing creative output by many many people. It is telling that you reference religious texts as evidence for something.

by czbond 5y ago

tehjoker 5y ago

Why shouldn't they relax if they can? It's bizarre to me that we need to regiment the entire population in order to... make sure people don't have fun?

czbond 5y ago
Whether it is human nature, or learned behavior, the typical human is unable to fill their time with productive use over a longer period of time unless purpose is imposed on them. Hence "work". The concept in a more general term is even mentioned in religious text so there must be a basis....
- tehjoker 5y ago
  This is puritanism. There is something to the idea that idle hands make for the devils workshop, but that's mainly when people are dissatisfied. If they're satisfied, let them play pokemon cards or whatever it is they do. You only get one life.
  - czbond 5y ago
    I believe at a higher level, a universe level, rather than a human level - human natural state must be an equilibrium of "energy" & detriment. (energy is a meta concept crossing domains here, stay with me). Humans consume energy (animals, resources) and create detriment (greenhouse gases, etc) - and must offset all of those to positively benefit the Earth or else that (and each) particular human is a net negative to the Earth. If a human is a net negative, at a higher level why should that person exist? Humans must each therefore cause a positive net of energy to the Earth through creating useful, productive, additions to the universe to push it forward. Otherwise, as in the matrix, said human is a parasite.
- sitkack 5y ago
  You see what you seek. I saw amazing creative output by many many people. It is telling that you reference religious texts as evidence for something.