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When I interviewed at GitHub, I had to answer some questions to determine how inclusive I really am. Microsoft is very big on this new type of culture.

nicoburns 5y ago
Is talking about death not inclusive? I would have thought it was about as inclusive as one could get seeing as it is a life experience that applies to literally everyone.
- k8sToGo 5y ago
  The whole inclusion also includes providing safe space, which I noticed means to basically act like there is only good things. So if you mention death in a different context it could trigger someone who recently lost someone, for example. Personally, I am not a fan of this, but this is how I understand this.
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
    This is absolutely insane and I'm so glad there are still companies and industries that don't give a fuck about any of this.
  - Aeolun 5y ago
    To be fair, any mention of a death of someone roughly my age and situation sets off my anxiety like nothing else. I’m not saying they’re obliged to prevent that, but I can sort of see where they are coming from.
    - nicoburns 5y ago
      Interesting. The thought of death calms my anxiety because I know* that if I die then all my worries will be taken away, and nothing will really matter anymore. It's the prospect of an unhappy or difficult life that worry me. * well, I have a strong belief
      - Aeolun 5y ago
        Hmm, I guess that is exactly what bothers me so much about death. I’d rather spend an eternity worrying than a second in oblivion.
    - k8sToGo 5y ago
      I understand that, but do you really think that it helps you cope and move on over time if you just avoid the word death forever? When I lost my dog it was devastating to see other dogs. But it really helped me move on to just expose myself to more dogs and eventually even get a new one.
DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
Github/Microsoft also immediately jumped at the PR opportunity to be among first companies to tone-police things like master/slave, whitelist/blacklist etc. Always funny when organizations paint themselves as do-gooders and people even applaud them for it. While in reality Both MS and Github have contracts with ICE, there is JEDI, HoloLens, AnyVision, ... The tone-policing and pandering to the woke mob / cancel culture, is just to distract from the actual disgusting things they do. The Wikipedia entry on FUD makes for an interesting read in corporate propaganda.
- pydry 5y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recuperation_(politics) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recuperation_(politics) It's an example of political recuperation. It's kind of amazing the way woke culture got contorted so much compared to its radicalized origins and how it achieved widespread notoriety only after morphing into some sort of language policing movement with a nullified political impact.
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    There seems to be a concentrated effort to de-politicize the economy and to de-economize politics. The left used to be all about things that impacted the bottom line of capitalists such as maximizing worker's rights and leverage. Now it's about gender identity and tone policing.
- abledon 5y ago
  > to distract from the actual disgusting things they do. I dislike war and all its horrors as well, but curious, what do you think would happen if a 'magic' event occurred and the US decommissioned its military presence and all advanced technology, command center software etc.. (MSFT/PLTR/etc) ? Surely no other country would abuse this in the next 100 years right? right?
  - DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
    > I dislike war and all its horrors as well, but ... > Surely no other country ... I'm not anti-American. I'm anti-unchecked-capitalism. But I understand to most Americans that's tomato tomato potato potato. Corporations need to be stripped of their rights so the result (tax law) looks closer to what existed in the 60's so they have enough cash to educate their citizens on basic common sense. A country that spends trillions on Pentagon and defense but is unable to provide basic healthcare, min. wage, 30 days paid vacation for every employee is simply a backward land of hillbillies and trailer park trash. No country hates their poor as much as Americans. For sure it's profitable keeping most citizens dumb and below the poverty line, but it's unhealthy. And it also violates all laws of human decency. Especially when they're also in the business of tone-policing the rest of the world and exporting their "values" with foreign policies. I really want the US to be a role-model because the world needs one. But bloody hell they should try a little harder and start treating their own people like people.

nicoburns 5y ago

Is talking about death not inclusive? I would have thought it was about as inclusive as one could get seeing as it is a life experience that applies to literally everyone.

k8sToGo 5y ago
The whole inclusion also includes providing safe space, which I noticed means to basically act like there is only good things. So if you mention death in a different context it could trigger someone who recently lost someone, for example. Personally, I am not a fan of this, but this is how I understand this.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  This is absolutely insane and I'm so glad there are still companies and industries that don't give a fuck about any of this.
- Aeolun 5y ago
  To be fair, any mention of a death of someone roughly my age and situation sets off my anxiety like nothing else. I’m not saying they’re obliged to prevent that, but I can sort of see where they are coming from.
  - nicoburns 5y ago
    Interesting. The thought of death calms my anxiety because I know* that if I die then all my worries will be taken away, and nothing will really matter anymore. It's the prospect of an unhappy or difficult life that worry me. * well, I have a strong belief
    - Aeolun 5y ago
      Hmm, I guess that is exactly what bothers me so much about death. I’d rather spend an eternity worrying than a second in oblivion.
  - k8sToGo 5y ago
    I understand that, but do you really think that it helps you cope and move on over time if you just avoid the word death forever? When I lost my dog it was devastating to see other dogs. But it really helped me move on to just expose myself to more dogs and eventually even get a new one.

DyslexicAtheist 5y ago

Github/Microsoft also immediately jumped at the PR opportunity to be among first companies to tone-police things like master/slave, whitelist/blacklist etc. Always funny when organizations paint themselves as do-gooders and people even applaud them for it. While in reality Both MS and Github have contracts with ICE, there is JEDI, HoloLens, AnyVision, ... The tone-policing and pandering to the woke mob / cancel culture, is just to distract from the actual disgusting things they do. The Wikipedia entry on FUD makes for an interesting read in corporate propaganda.

pydry 5y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recuperation_(politics) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recuperation_(politics) It's an example of political recuperation. It's kind of amazing the way woke culture got contorted so much compared to its radicalized origins and how it achieved widespread notoriety only after morphing into some sort of language policing movement with a nullified political impact.
- matheusmoreira 5y ago
  There seems to be a concentrated effort to de-politicize the economy and to de-economize politics. The left used to be all about things that impacted the bottom line of capitalists such as maximizing worker's rights and leverage. Now it's about gender identity and tone policing.
abledon 5y ago
> to distract from the actual disgusting things they do. I dislike war and all its horrors as well, but curious, what do you think would happen if a 'magic' event occurred and the US decommissioned its military presence and all advanced technology, command center software etc.. (MSFT/PLTR/etc) ? Surely no other country would abuse this in the next 100 years right? right?
- DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
  > I dislike war and all its horrors as well, but ... > Surely no other country ... I'm not anti-American. I'm anti-unchecked-capitalism. But I understand to most Americans that's tomato tomato potato potato. Corporations need to be stripped of their rights so the result (tax law) looks closer to what existed in the 60's so they have enough cash to educate their citizens on basic common sense. A country that spends trillions on Pentagon and defense but is unable to provide basic healthcare, min. wage, 30 days paid vacation for every employee is simply a backward land of hillbillies and trailer park trash. No country hates their poor as much as Americans. For sure it's profitable keeping most citizens dumb and below the poverty line, but it's unhealthy. And it also violates all laws of human decency. Especially when they're also in the business of tone-policing the rest of the world and exporting their "values" with foreign policies. I really want the US to be a role-model because the world needs one. But bloody hell they should try a little harder and start treating their own people like people.