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US healthcare costs more but the quality of care and capacity is miles ahead. Let's face it, if you have money and/or are the class of professional that qualif

US healthcare costs more but the quality of care and capacity is miles ahead. Let's face it, if you have money and/or are the class of professional that qualifies for a TN visa, you'll have health insurance and you'll receive better care than you ever could in Canada. Look at your link, the US is #2 in the only category relating to the actual care you receive. The main problem in Canada isn't the quality of care per se, it's the fact that our health care system is so gutted you can't access it in a timely manner with no options to get around it (ie. very little private delivery). Anything that's considered non-essential (which is quite a bit, including many quality of life procedures) takes months to years...

light_hue_1 5y ago
> Look at your link, the US is #2 in the only category relating to the actual care you receive. That is completely untrue. The US is literally last. It's 11 out of 11. Worst outcomes across the board. From life expectancy to treatable deaths to heart attacks to infant mortality. The US is by far the worst. If you read the report, you'll see that "care process" has nothing to do with "quality". It's about things like the efficiency of electronic medical record systems, or things like "In past two years, used a secure website, patient portal, or mobile app to request Rx refills from regular practice". etc. Yeah, the US has a lot of money to waste of frills, this makes middlemen money, instead of actual care. > US healthcare costs more but the quality of care and capacity is miles ahead If you read the report, this is totally the opposite. The US costs more and has the worst outcomes. You get the worst care of all developed countries. Not only that, the US has the worst capacity! It has the lowest number of doctors per capita. The difference between the US and Canada? If you have a lot of money and work for an employer who can absorb a lot of costs, you can pay your way out of the system in the US to get faster care. The vast vast majority of people in the US and in Canada, can't do that.
- Mikeb85 5y ago
  Ok, let's look at some real information and not your biased website which doesn't actually account for any quality of care measurements. https://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/health-at-a-glance-united-states-EN.pdf https://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/health-at-a-glance-united-... https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/ae3016b9-en/1/3/1/index.html?itemId=/content/publication/ae3016b9-en&_csp_=ca413da5d44587bc56446341952c275e&itemIGO=oecd&itemContentType=book#section-d1e7311 https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/ae3016b9-en/1/3/1/index.... https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/ae3016b9-en/1/3/1/index.html?itemId=/content/publication/ae3016b9-en&_csp_=ca413da5d44587bc56446341952c275e&itemIGO=oecd&itemContentType=book#section-d1e9262 https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/ae3016b9-en/1/3/1/index.... The OECD has statistics on basically every aspect of the health care system, across most developed countries. You can look at any category relating to quality of care or health system capacity and the US crushes Canada. Canada didn't even put on a very good showing on your link either. Affordability in the US is a problem, yes, but if you have the money, it's probably close to best in the world. That's why most of my family left Canada for the US years ago (also so they could earn 3x more and pay less for, well, everything that's not healthcare).
- nradov 5y ago
  The US is near the top in cancer survival rates. https://www.healio.com/news/hematology-oncology/20180131/us-cancer-survival-rates-remain-among-highest-in-world https://www.healio.com/news/hematology-oncology/20180131/us-...

light_hue_1 5y ago

> Look at your link, the US is #2 in the only category relating to the actual care you receive. That is completely untrue. The US is literally last. It's 11 out of 11. Worst outcomes across the board. From life expectancy to treatable deaths to heart attacks to infant mortality. The US is by far the worst. If you read the report, you'll see that "care process" has nothing to do with "quality". It's about things like the efficiency of electronic medical record systems, or things like "In past two years, used a secure website, patient portal, or mobile app to request Rx refills from regular practice". etc. Yeah, the US has a lot of money to waste of frills, this makes middlemen money, instead of actual care. > US healthcare costs more but the quality of care and capacity is miles ahead If you read the report, this is totally the opposite. The US costs more and has the worst outcomes. You get the worst care of all developed countries. Not only that, the US has the worst capacity! It has the lowest number of doctors per capita. The difference between the US and Canada? If you have a lot of money and work for an employer who can absorb a lot of costs, you can pay your way out of the system in the US to get faster care. The vast vast majority of people in the US and in Canada, can't do that.

Mikeb85 5y ago
Ok, let's look at some real information and not your biased website which doesn't actually account for any quality of care measurements. https://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/health-at-a-glance-united-states-EN.pdf https://www.oecd.org/unitedstates/health-at-a-glance-united-... https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/ae3016b9-en/1/3/1/index.html?itemId=/content/publication/ae3016b9-en&_csp_=ca413da5d44587bc56446341952c275e&itemIGO=oecd&itemContentType=book#section-d1e7311 https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/ae3016b9-en/1/3/1/index.... https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/ae3016b9-en/1/3/1/index.html?itemId=/content/publication/ae3016b9-en&_csp_=ca413da5d44587bc56446341952c275e&itemIGO=oecd&itemContentType=book#section-d1e9262 https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/ae3016b9-en/1/3/1/index.... The OECD has statistics on basically every aspect of the health care system, across most developed countries. You can look at any category relating to quality of care or health system capacity and the US crushes Canada. Canada didn't even put on a very good showing on your link either. Affordability in the US is a problem, yes, but if you have the money, it's probably close to best in the world. That's why most of my family left Canada for the US years ago (also so they could earn 3x more and pay less for, well, everything that's not healthcare).
nradov 5y ago
The US is near the top in cancer survival rates. https://www.healio.com/news/hematology-oncology/20180131/us-cancer-survival-rates-remain-among-highest-in-world https://www.healio.com/news/hematology-oncology/20180131/us-...