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For those of us in our 40s and not american - what's "green bubble"?

by Nursie 5y ago

cnasc 5y ago
If you use an iPhone and you send a regular SMS, the messages appear as green bubbles. iMessages appear as blue bubbles
glouwbug 5y ago
A text message. Blue messages are iMessage
jshier 5y ago
If you text an iPhone user over SMS, the message appears in a green bubble in the Messages app. If you use the native Messages protocol, it's blue. So green bubbles are an obvious outlier if most of your contacts have iPhones.
sly010 5y ago
Allegedly (I can't confirm, since I use Android) in imessage, non iphone users messages show up in green speech bubbles, while imessage users are blue (or grey?) [0] [0] https://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/the-plight-and-conspiracy-behind-the-dreaded-green-texting-bubble/news-story/19ca0bee1ac67852bcb29966f35432d3 https://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/the...
- MBCook 5y ago
  That’s not quite right. Anything you send shows up with a grey bubble. Doesn’t matter how it’s sent. Anything you receive by SMS shows up in a green bubble. Anything you receive my iMessage shows up in a blue bubble. Obviously only Apple users can send iMessages, And Apple devices default to iMessage if they detect that the other user is also an iMessage user. iMessage is end to end encrypted, supports higher quality videos and pictures, sound clips, reactions, read status, little apps (no one uses this), reactions, effects, longer messages, and probably other things that I am forgetting. Most crucial he, EVERYONE in a chat has to be on the same protocol. Obviously this is easy when talking one on one, but it becomes a big issue when talking in a group. In a group of 100 people it only takes a single non-iPhone user to cause EVERYONE to fall back to SMS.
ktta 5y ago
When two phones with iMessage enabled text each other, the texts are blue and the experience is better-- the texts are more responsive, have read receipts, high quality videos/images, games, and more. However, when one of the users does not have iMessage (almost always the case when one person uses android), the text messages show up as green. Since these conversations cannot make use of the above features that you have with iMessage, and along with this, the texts have a green color to them. This has come to be known as "green bubble" problem. The problem is exacerbated in group texts. The iMessage features are available only when every single person in the group chat has iMessage. If someone doesn't, the entire group falls back to MMS which is a degraded experience from both the iPhone users' side, as well as the Android users' side. Teens can be fickle, and I've heard you get excluded from group chats-- hurting your social life when so much of it revolves around group chats. I think you see the point by now. I just held out again and purchased an Android Phone, but I could see myself breaking down and getting an iPhone for my next one. Most recent problem being that you can't send videos via MMS without them becoming heavily compressed, and have to switch to a third party app like Signal or WhatsApp.
- Nursie 5y ago
  Interesting. I've historically been an android user and have an iPhone now. Never really bothered with iMessage and my social circles use whatsapp or signal primarily. I guess in markets where the iphone isn't dominant (UK), this social dynamic doesn't really exist.
  - MBCook 5y ago
    That’s what I’ve heard. In the US the two messaging standards are currently iMessage (Apple only) and SMS (everything). Yes FB Messages and WhatsApp and Signal and Telegram and everything else exist. But none of them is anywhere big enough to be a default that everyone has. So you often end up on iMessage or SMS.
vmception 5y ago
Basically its a scarlet letter that means you have an android phone. When ios users text message each other, the messages are blue and also many forms of rich media and reactions can be sent. When a user has a green bubble it mostly means they dont have an iphone and cant receive lots of metadata, its even a great risk for misunderstanding to be made as the emojis are all completely different. The actual reason is less pretentious and is just notifying the user that the message is unencrypted (due to being a normal SMS), and that alone is a good enough warning to disassociate. But thats evolved to being a 99% correlation with having a non-iphone but specifically android device since the competitors have all left the market by now. Android users often are out of the loop on a lot of things, like many dont even know the reality of the green bubble issue. Many will learn and choose to continue missing the social cues, opting to believe that its just a small subset of pretentious people that care and that theyre better off not being around that kind of person. They don't know that many opportunities are being withheld from them. Why is that? Well. Think about it. Many android users looooooove to tell people about how much control they have over their phone. Everyone knows! Nobody cares! Nobody wants to hear it! If we go on a hike and take awesome photos using their high tech transdimensional phone camera from the future, they cant share the photos offline with any built in function that all the other phones already have and their own phone might explode before we get back to civilization! Iphone users can though. We’re all content just waiting for Apple to introduce the same functionality 5 years in the future. Nobody thinks its really magical when Apple tell us an old reintroduced technology is. Android wasnt in the running, so its nice to get an extra feature. People are just tired of the missed social cues, and lack of integration into the ecosystem now. Ironically Apple could open it up, at least to get encrypted messages, but honestly the world has evolved in such a convenient way that Apple just has to wait it out. People use Whatsapp and other stuff, and their major US market keeps gravitating to iphone.
- Nursie 5y ago
  This seems a very US problem - in markets where the iPhone isn't dominant, people use whatsapp or signal and just get on with life. Your snark seems to be rooted in that as well. In the UK AFAICT 'nobody' cares about the amount of control they have over their phone, because 'normal' people predominantly use android devices.

For those of us in our 40s and not american - what's "green bubble"?

by Nursie 5y ago

For those of us in our 40s and not american - what's "green bubble"?

cnasc 5y ago

If you use an iPhone and you send a regular SMS, the messages appear as green bubbles. iMessages appear as blue bubbles

glouwbug 5y ago

A text message. Blue messages are iMessage

jshier 5y ago

If you text an iPhone user over SMS, the message appears in a green bubble in the Messages app. If you use the native Messages protocol, it's blue. So green bubbles are an obvious outlier if most of your contacts have iPhones.

sly010 5y ago

Allegedly (I can't confirm, since I use Android) in imessage, non iphone users messages show up in green speech bubbles, while imessage users are blue (or grey?) [0] [0] https://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/the-plight-and-conspiracy-behind-the-dreaded-green-texting-bubble/news-story/19ca0bee1ac67852bcb29966f35432d3 https://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/the...

MBCook 5y ago
That’s not quite right. Anything you send shows up with a grey bubble. Doesn’t matter how it’s sent. Anything you receive by SMS shows up in a green bubble. Anything you receive my iMessage shows up in a blue bubble. Obviously only Apple users can send iMessages, And Apple devices default to iMessage if they detect that the other user is also an iMessage user. iMessage is end to end encrypted, supports higher quality videos and pictures, sound clips, reactions, read status, little apps (no one uses this), reactions, effects, longer messages, and probably other things that I am forgetting. Most crucial he, EVERYONE in a chat has to be on the same protocol. Obviously this is easy when talking one on one, but it becomes a big issue when talking in a group. In a group of 100 people it only takes a single non-iPhone user to cause EVERYONE to fall back to SMS.

ktta 5y ago

When two phones with iMessage enabled text each other, the texts are blue and the experience is better-- the texts are more responsive, have read receipts, high quality videos/images, games, and more. However, when one of the users does not have iMessage (almost always the case when one person uses android), the text messages show up as green. Since these conversations cannot make use of the above features that you have with iMessage, and along with this, the texts have a green color to them. This has come to be known as "green bubble" problem. The problem is exacerbated in group texts. The iMessage features are available only when every single person in the group chat has iMessage. If someone doesn't, the entire group falls back to MMS which is a degraded experience from both the iPhone users' side, as well as the Android users' side. Teens can be fickle, and I've heard you get excluded from group chats-- hurting your social life when so much of it revolves around group chats. I think you see the point by now. I just held out again and purchased an Android Phone, but I could see myself breaking down and getting an iPhone for my next one. Most recent problem being that you can't send videos via MMS without them becoming heavily compressed, and have to switch to a third party app like Signal or WhatsApp.

Nursie 5y ago
Interesting. I've historically been an android user and have an iPhone now. Never really bothered with iMessage and my social circles use whatsapp or signal primarily. I guess in markets where the iphone isn't dominant (UK), this social dynamic doesn't really exist.
- MBCook 5y ago
  That’s what I’ve heard. In the US the two messaging standards are currently iMessage (Apple only) and SMS (everything). Yes FB Messages and WhatsApp and Signal and Telegram and everything else exist. But none of them is anywhere big enough to be a default that everyone has. So you often end up on iMessage or SMS.

vmception 5y ago

Basically its a scarlet letter that means you have an android phone. When ios users text message each other, the messages are blue and also many forms of rich media and reactions can be sent. When a user has a green bubble it mostly means they dont have an iphone and cant receive lots of metadata, its even a great risk for misunderstanding to be made as the emojis are all completely different. The actual reason is less pretentious and is just notifying the user that the message is unencrypted (due to being a normal SMS), and that alone is a good enough warning to disassociate. But thats evolved to being a 99% correlation with having a non-iphone but specifically android device since the competitors have all left the market by now. Android users often are out of the loop on a lot of things, like many dont even know the reality of the green bubble issue. Many will learn and choose to continue missing the social cues, opting to believe that its just a small subset of pretentious people that care and that theyre better off not being around that kind of person. They don't know that many opportunities are being withheld from them. Why is that? Well. Think about it. Many android users looooooove to tell people about how much control they have over their phone. Everyone knows! Nobody cares! Nobody wants to hear it! If we go on a hike and take awesome photos using their high tech transdimensional phone camera from the future, they cant share the photos offline with any built in function that all the other phones already have and their own phone might explode before we get back to civilization! Iphone users can though. We’re all content just waiting for Apple to introduce the same functionality 5 years in the future. Nobody thinks its really magical when Apple tell us an old reintroduced technology is. Android wasnt in the running, so its nice to get an extra feature. People are just tired of the missed social cues, and lack of integration into the ecosystem now. Ironically Apple could open it up, at least to get encrypted messages, but honestly the world has evolved in such a convenient way that Apple just has to wait it out. People use Whatsapp and other stuff, and their major US market keeps gravitating to iphone.

Nursie 5y ago
This seems a very US problem - in markets where the iPhone isn't dominant, people use whatsapp or signal and just get on with life. Your snark seems to be rooted in that as well. In the UK AFAICT 'nobody' cares about the amount of control they have over their phone, because 'normal' people predominantly use android devices.