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> You kids have no idea how easy you have it. Don't worry, the industry finds a way to overcomplicate everything. If we tried to write anything that original
by LAC-Tech 5y ago
> You kids have no idea how easy you have it.
Don't worry, the industry finds a way to overcomplicate everything.
If we tried to write anything that original in 2022 we'd be berated for not using a library.
- tommek4077 5y agoBut you still can ignore those idiots. It works very well.
- LAC-Tech 5y agoI can't really when the app is pre-existing and over-engineered.
- tommek4077 5y agoGood point, there helps fingerpointing. Bad programmers are not hearing enough that they are bad. Slow, bloated software is just accepted somehow. Even in the dev community. That needs to stop. Start naming the people behind all those electron crap.
- the_only_law 5y agoToo bad most desktop GUI framework libraries are trash and absolutely painful to use.
- tommek4077 5y agoYeah, we should just give up. I get you.
- Cthulhu_ 5y agoI mean, try teaching someone the age of the author or most people that played with BASIC at the time what it takes to build a webapp these days.
- LAC-Tech 5y agowhat breaks my heart is it doesn't have to be that way. less so than in 2022 than any other time.
- cafard 5y agoI look forward to you posting the link to your tutorial on HN. I was fiddling with assembler in 1987, but I am probably fifteen years older than the author. I suspect that I am still teachable; I am confident the author is.
- drdec 5y agoI was playing with BASIC on a Wang PC in 1987 and today I write and maintain webapps using React (among other things). Perhaps you didn't mean it that way, but I found your comment demeaning.
- mb_72 5y agoHmmm, I started programming in 1982 on a TRS80 Color Computer, and am still at it building web and desktop apps. I agree if you were out of the scene for a while it'd be a hard task to get to grips with things, but otherwise some of us can still understand and maybe even use some of the newfangled stuff.
- dhosek 5y agoHuh, I was writing BASIC code (and even some 6502 Assembler) back in 1980. Somehow I manage to get my feeble brain to comprehend the modern web stack. I guess I must be exceptional.
- abbub 5y agoFull stack dev checking in (Django on the backend, Angular on the frontend). Also have no difficulty with modern development (web or otherwise) despite having cut my teeth on 8-bit BASIC. ;)
- GrinningFool 5y agoIs this based on experience teaching such people, or assumptions?
- petercooper 5y agoIt's funny you say this because just last night I was reading a 1985 copy of UNIX Review [1] and there was an article specifically having a go at C developers who didn't use library functions and rolled their own(!) Not entirely related to the modern practice of using a "library" but close enough to make me chuckle. [1] https://twitter.com/peterc/status/1478520632765784072 https://twitter.com/peterc/status/1478520632765784072
- dhosek 5y agoI think there's a difference between ignoring stdlib stuff and not using some 3rd-party library of questionable provenance to parse strings in the format of YYYYMMDD into date objects.