Thank you for your response. No, my comment was not on the entire Java ecosystem, only on the "enterprise" mindset. The Java ecosystem is rich, and I like it.

Thank you for your response. No, my comment was not on the entire Java ecosystem, only on the "enterprise" mindset. The Java ecosystem is rich, and I like it. As a consultant I am constantly running into enterprise engineers who are "spring specialists" ... they don't think in terms of simplicity and the entire system. They want a little bit of workflow, and instead of using a messaging product (or simpler still, a shared filesystem) they want to use a workflow product which comes with its own fat manual and is all things to all people. I'm aghast that a simple app takes up gigabytes of RAM, and even more so that they are so blasé about it. </rant> To answer my own question, I like the look of jooby a lot. I will go through your list of micro frameworks as well. Thanks again.