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Nobody wants to get the disease which POSSIBLY could kill them or put them to hospital and perhaps financially bankrupt them and or give them bad long-term heal

Nobody wants to get the disease which POSSIBLY could kill them or put them to hospital and perhaps financially bankrupt them and or give them bad long-term health outcomes. That has an effect on the behavior of everybody, except of course those who believe Covid is a "democratic hoax". Also with an evolving disease you don't know what its death-rate will be and it will depend on the preventive measures you and the government take, one of which is "shutting down" another being vaccination, which was not available at the beginning. If there had been no vaccine surely the death-rate had been larger. According to data below the mortality rate is 7.5% in Mexico. In US it is 1.5%, not 1% as implied by whoever posed the question. "Shutting down" will affect the mortality-rate because presumably it will protect the most vulnerable population more. If they don't get infected the mortality rate will be smaller. And as far as I can tell US was never really "shut down" was it? Everybody still got their groceries. Many died of Covid, nobody died of hunger I believe. Subways and buses were running. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

323 5y ago
> mortality rate is 7.5% in Mexico That is probably the CFR (case fatality rate). This depends on actually testing. If you don't test mild or asymptomatic cases, the mortality will look way larger. But we know the actual global mortality, is about 0.7%.
- galaxyLogic 5y ago
  A link to that data would be nice thanks
nradov 5y ago
You appear to be confused about the true mortality rate. The page you linked gives case fatality rates, which are irrelevant due to lack of testing. The vast majority of infections were never tested, and thus never counted as cases. The CDC estimated the real fatality rate at 0.6%. Vaccines and other improved therapies are now pushing that fatality rate lower. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd... Everyone will get infected. Shutting down can only delay that. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646
- galaxyLogic 5y ago
  Shutting down can prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed so they can also take care of other emergencies besides Covid. Let's say you get to a serious car accident. But the hospital can not take you because it is full of Covid patients.
  - nradov 5y ago
    How many serious car accidents do you typically get into per year?

323 5y ago

> mortality rate is 7.5% in Mexico That is probably the CFR (case fatality rate). This depends on actually testing. If you don't test mild or asymptomatic cases, the mortality will look way larger. But we know the actual global mortality, is about 0.7%.

galaxyLogic 5y ago
A link to that data would be nice thanks

nradov 5y ago

You appear to be confused about the true mortality rate. The page you linked gives case fatality rates, which are irrelevant due to lack of testing. The vast majority of infections were never tested, and thus never counted as cases. The CDC estimated the real fatality rate at 0.6%. Vaccines and other improved therapies are now pushing that fatality rate lower. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd... Everyone will get infected. Shutting down can only delay that. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646 https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646

galaxyLogic 5y ago
Shutting down can prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed so they can also take care of other emergencies besides Covid. Let's say you get to a serious car accident. But the hospital can not take you because it is full of Covid patients.
- nradov 5y ago
  How many serious car accidents do you typically get into per year?