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If you're in the market for such a phone may I ask, without judgement, why? I'm very interested in whether this is aimed particularly at certain professions, if

by jnsie 5y ago

If you're in the market for such a phone may I ask, without judgement, why? I'm very interested in whether this is aimed particularly at certain professions, if more and more people fear violation of personal privacy, etc. Again, no judgement or preconception - I'm asking in good faith.

kadoban 5y ago
I'm probably vaguely close to the market for this. My reasons would be privacy and security concerns. Phones are creepy, they have access to _everything_, are carried everywhere, and we have little knowledge or control of what they're doing.
acd 5y ago
People say they have nothing to hide. Yet would you hand your unlocked cell phone over to a stranger? People give away all kind of personal data for free to adtech. If you have serious privacy concerns phones like this makes sense.
- jabej 5y ago
  A total stranger? Sure, why not. That’s why I don’t care about big tech having my info. Friends or relatives? No way.
  - mobiletoss1337 5y ago
    What if those strangers were going to attack your friends, neighbors, or elderly parents with every scam and shady advertising/phishing scheme that they could invent?
encryptluks2 5y ago
Maybe they grow/sell marijuana or shrooms and want to learn about things like that without worrying about being put on some list, or just have concerns about censorship or being flagged based on their political beliefs.
webmobdev 5y ago
Two major reasons: 1. I don't want my data used against me politically - there are legitimate reasons to shield your personal data to protect yourself from political persecution from ordinary people to the government. E.g. A gay man may fear his homophobic colleagues will bully him, a migrant may fear that his right-wing boss may fire him if he knows his origins, a muslim may prefer to not grow a beard or a Sikh not wear turban to hide his identity to safeguard himself from unwanted hostile attention from strangers etc. etc. E.g. 2 - The United State government now demands that you tell them about all your email and social media accounts when you apply for a US visa. 2. I don't want my data used against me commercially - BigTech want more and more data about us to determine how to influence our behaviour. Preventing them access to my personal data protects and allows me to make rational purchase decisions, rather than those based on impulses influenced by BigTech overt or covert advertising. Denying corporates access to our personal data does both, because BigTech now also sell our data to government agencies. Since the government is one of their target customer base with a big purse, BigTech have now also started using our personal data to try and influence us politically.

by jnsie 5y ago

kadoban 5y ago

I'm probably vaguely close to the market for this. My reasons would be privacy and security concerns. Phones are creepy, they have access to _everything_, are carried everywhere, and we have little knowledge or control of what they're doing.

acd 5y ago

People say they have nothing to hide. Yet would you hand your unlocked cell phone over to a stranger? People give away all kind of personal data for free to adtech. If you have serious privacy concerns phones like this makes sense.

jabej 5y ago
A total stranger? Sure, why not. That’s why I don’t care about big tech having my info. Friends or relatives? No way.
- mobiletoss1337 5y ago
  What if those strangers were going to attack your friends, neighbors, or elderly parents with every scam and shady advertising/phishing scheme that they could invent?

encryptluks2 5y ago

Maybe they grow/sell marijuana or shrooms and want to learn about things like that without worrying about being put on some list, or just have concerns about censorship or being flagged based on their political beliefs.

webmobdev 5y ago

Two major reasons: 1. I don't want my data used against me politically - there are legitimate reasons to shield your personal data to protect yourself from political persecution from ordinary people to the government. E.g. A gay man may fear his homophobic colleagues will bully him, a migrant may fear that his right-wing boss may fire him if he knows his origins, a muslim may prefer to not grow a beard or a Sikh not wear turban to hide his identity to safeguard himself from unwanted hostile attention from strangers etc. etc. E.g. 2 - The United State government now demands that you tell them about all your email and social media accounts when you apply for a US visa. 2. I don't want my data used against me commercially - BigTech want more and more data about us to determine how to influence our behaviour. Preventing them access to my personal data protects and allows me to make rational purchase decisions, rather than those based on impulses influenced by BigTech overt or covert advertising. Denying corporates access to our personal data does both, because BigTech now also sell our data to government agencies. Since the government is one of their target customer base with a big purse, BigTech have now also started using our personal data to try and influence us politically.