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This. IMO, most of the culture was a distraction from what really matters. People are up in arms on TV over who can claim to be a woman, but meanwhile, the co

This. IMO, most of the culture was a distraction from what really matters. People are up in arms on TV over who can claim to be a woman, but meanwhile, the concentration of wealth and economic power and worse than even the guided age. If the bottom 50% of the population (economically) united on JUST this topic, they would see massive change - better structured education, housing, health, etc. Instead we get what I call "hand grenades" that distract and mean almost nothing - like another biological male smashing records in a female sport and wanting to keep the medals.

onemoresoop 5y ago
I share a similar opinion. Everything and every group's voice should be heard at some point but not in a more divisive manner and to the detriment of attention to the immediate problems that affect us all in the most serious ways: housing, healthcare, wages, political corruption, conflicts of interest, and so on. We're in very bad shape and a risk major collapse. If we continue down this path we'll see homelessness and and inequality rise to catastrophic levels. What we really need at this point more than anything is some form of unity.
- tdeck 5y ago
  > Everything and every group's voice should be heard at some point but not in a more divisive manner and to the detriment of attention to the immediate problems that affect us all The problem with this line of thinking is that there's a pattern to which peoples' issues are considered mainstream (i.e. they affect "us all") and which group's issues are considered divisive and a "distraction". But if you're in a marginalized minority group, those "distractions" may be your biggest problems every day. "Not yet" is practically the same as "no" and some folks are tired of waiting, so if you want unity you've got to build it by acknowledging those problems and support those people. Otherwise "unity" always comes at the expense of the same people.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  To treat people differently is in the poor handbook of middle management. It creates resentment towards those with preferential treatment. This is pretty basic knowledge in psychology and that is why I cannot really believe in the good intend of academics selling idpol. They do it for themselves and themselves alone. Perfect for manipulation, extremely potent as a union buster or to kill movements like occupy wallstreet.
boppo1 5y ago
> united on JUST this topic, they would see massive change - better structured education, housing, health, etc. I think part of the issue is no one agrees on what causes it. Status-quo left says not enough taxes and social spending. SQ right says immigration, geo-arbing, and taxes too high. Imo we actually need to be talking about interest rate interventionism, but good luck getting people to care about cash flow valuation denominators.
groby_b 5y ago
"Culture wars are nonsense and distraction - wait, let me add an aside about the group I hate" is maybe not as strong a point as you think it is.

onemoresoop 5y ago

I share a similar opinion. Everything and every group's voice should be heard at some point but not in a more divisive manner and to the detriment of attention to the immediate problems that affect us all in the most serious ways: housing, healthcare, wages, political corruption, conflicts of interest, and so on. We're in very bad shape and a risk major collapse. If we continue down this path we'll see homelessness and and inequality rise to catastrophic levels. What we really need at this point more than anything is some form of unity.

tdeck 5y ago
> Everything and every group's voice should be heard at some point but not in a more divisive manner and to the detriment of attention to the immediate problems that affect us all The problem with this line of thinking is that there's a pattern to which peoples' issues are considered mainstream (i.e. they affect "us all") and which group's issues are considered divisive and a "distraction". But if you're in a marginalized minority group, those "distractions" may be your biggest problems every day. "Not yet" is practically the same as "no" and some folks are tired of waiting, so if you want unity you've got to build it by acknowledging those problems and support those people. Otherwise "unity" always comes at the expense of the same people.
raxxorrax 5y ago
To treat people differently is in the poor handbook of middle management. It creates resentment towards those with preferential treatment. This is pretty basic knowledge in psychology and that is why I cannot really believe in the good intend of academics selling idpol. They do it for themselves and themselves alone. Perfect for manipulation, extremely potent as a union buster or to kill movements like occupy wallstreet.

boppo1 5y ago

> united on JUST this topic, they would see massive change - better structured education, housing, health, etc. I think part of the issue is no one agrees on what causes it. Status-quo left says not enough taxes and social spending. SQ right says immigration, geo-arbing, and taxes too high. Imo we actually need to be talking about interest rate interventionism, but good luck getting people to care about cash flow valuation denominators.

groby_b 5y ago

"Culture wars are nonsense and distraction - wait, let me add an aside about the group I hate" is maybe not as strong a point as you think it is.