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Career wise, you if it gets know you'll likely never be trusted again. Legally, since you wrote SWE, then you should look up "Trolöshet mot huvudman" https:/

Career wise, you if it gets know you'll likely never be trusted again. Legally, since you wrote SWE, then you should look up "Trolöshet mot huvudman" https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trol%C3%B6shet_mot_huvudman https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trol%C3%B6shet_mot_huvudman If you have signed any NDA's or contracts, you should have read through them as it specifically says you are not allowed to work for any competitor or do competitive freelance work. If you ahve any side businesses they generally ahve to be approved by the Business Ethics department of the company legal team, and approved by your manager as not intruding in to your daily workload or competing with your job. So you'd be pretty much fucked if they find out. At best you are fired. At worst you are looking at a legal suit, possibly even criminal suit if they decided to say that you stole company confidential information and provided to the other company. Once that is done, it doesn't matter if they win or not, you'll be paying through the nose legal fees, and no one will ever hire you again in the business. but hey if you can get away with it, there is money to be earned. Though on a personal level, consider your mental health as well. How long are you able to keep up the charade? How will the stress affect you long term?

nanoscopic 5y ago
mech422 5y ago
Depends on who you work for - I've had plenty of full-time and contract positions that had no restrictions against other work aside from a non-compete. I've also worked plenty of places that only claim ownership of IP created on their time/equipment and not any/all random side projects you work on.
froaway4job 5y ago
Luckily it hasn't been stressful for me. I'm willing to leave a company quickly if I feel that I don't fit within their culture or the workload is too much. Definitely a good point to consider though. I'm pretty conscious of my mental well being while trying to manage my work. > Career wise, you if it gets know you'll likely never be trusted again. I think one of the reasons I'm able to manage my mental health so well is that I try to maintain a long term perspective and I'm not worried about how I'm perceived in the present time. I'm never a jerk at work, I complete my work on time, do timely code reviews, and help out others. Friendly and professional but at a distance. I never go above and beyond my current work scope though. I'm ok with that. If someone finds out and doesn't trust me, that's cool. You're just a coworker to me. No hard feelings, I didn't consider you a friend and I don't consider you an enemy. We'll forget about each other in 2-3 years.
- MaxPengwing 5y ago
  well I mean in that case, do what you do, you sound like you have made peace with it. But to be honest the best place for legal advice is to talk with an actual lawyer, not random yahoos like me on an internet forum. If it was me, I'd take the money made from one of the jobs and just invest in anything that can give me passive income streams, Like dividend yielding stocks, index funds, bonds, maybe even own some real estate that makes money passively and have a management service firm take care of it for me (yes it costs money, but at least I don't have to deal with it). then figure out after a year or two if this is really the life you want to live, holding three jobs and then live the life I want not have to. But what do I know... im just a random yahoo on an internet forum ;-)
bellyfullofbac 5y ago
I'm pretty sure OP means SWE is "software engineering" and not Sweden... In places where the employer directly deducts taxes/social security and transfers them to the authorities, they might ask one of the employers if they're the "primary employer" or tell them that they need to contribute less because 2 other companies are also paying into the fund for the employee... at that point the jig could be up. I wonder where OP works, and if he's wearing some nice Dunning-Kruger glasses...
- froaway4job 5y ago
  I'm actually wearing Warby Parker brand glasses :D I put on my employment tax forms that I have multiple jobs and pay estimated taxes. No issues so far. As far as my glasses, I don't believe I've made any claims of being excellent or even proficient. I know what my employee reviews state, but as far as my own assessment of my skills, I'm below average as an engineer. I simply don't put in enough extra effort to be considered a good engineer.
- MaxPengwing 5y ago
  And here I was happy thinking I 'd run in to an other Swede on Hacker News.. ah well.. in hindsight now that I read it, you are of course right.

nanoscopic 5y ago

mech422 5y ago

Depends on who you work for - I've had plenty of full-time and contract positions that had no restrictions against other work aside from a non-compete. I've also worked plenty of places that only claim ownership of IP created on their time/equipment and not any/all random side projects you work on.

froaway4job 5y ago

Luckily it hasn't been stressful for me. I'm willing to leave a company quickly if I feel that I don't fit within their culture or the workload is too much. Definitely a good point to consider though. I'm pretty conscious of my mental well being while trying to manage my work. > Career wise, you if it gets know you'll likely never be trusted again. I think one of the reasons I'm able to manage my mental health so well is that I try to maintain a long term perspective and I'm not worried about how I'm perceived in the present time. I'm never a jerk at work, I complete my work on time, do timely code reviews, and help out others. Friendly and professional but at a distance. I never go above and beyond my current work scope though. I'm ok with that. If someone finds out and doesn't trust me, that's cool. You're just a coworker to me. No hard feelings, I didn't consider you a friend and I don't consider you an enemy. We'll forget about each other in 2-3 years.

MaxPengwing 5y ago
well I mean in that case, do what you do, you sound like you have made peace with it. But to be honest the best place for legal advice is to talk with an actual lawyer, not random yahoos like me on an internet forum. If it was me, I'd take the money made from one of the jobs and just invest in anything that can give me passive income streams, Like dividend yielding stocks, index funds, bonds, maybe even own some real estate that makes money passively and have a management service firm take care of it for me (yes it costs money, but at least I don't have to deal with it). then figure out after a year or two if this is really the life you want to live, holding three jobs and then live the life I want not have to. But what do I know... im just a random yahoo on an internet forum ;-)

bellyfullofbac 5y ago

I'm pretty sure OP means SWE is "software engineering" and not Sweden... In places where the employer directly deducts taxes/social security and transfers them to the authorities, they might ask one of the employers if they're the "primary employer" or tell them that they need to contribute less because 2 other companies are also paying into the fund for the employee... at that point the jig could be up. I wonder where OP works, and if he's wearing some nice Dunning-Kruger glasses...

froaway4job 5y ago
I'm actually wearing Warby Parker brand glasses :D I put on my employment tax forms that I have multiple jobs and pay estimated taxes. No issues so far. As far as my glasses, I don't believe I've made any claims of being excellent or even proficient. I know what my employee reviews state, but as far as my own assessment of my skills, I'm below average as an engineer. I simply don't put in enough extra effort to be considered a good engineer.
MaxPengwing 5y ago
And here I was happy thinking I 'd run in to an other Swede on Hacker News.. ah well.. in hindsight now that I read it, you are of course right.