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In other words: In cities with cheap housing, even the drug addicts can afford a home, which is a GOOD thing IMO. For everybody, homeless and housed.

tehwebguy 5y ago
Agreed! It’s not like none of the homeowners or folks in luxury apartments in SF are using recreational drugs, they are just doing it in private because they can.
- monocasa 5y ago
  Yep, this is what I saw when I moved from the worst schooling filter district in GA to the best in the state. AFAICT wealthy people use drugs more than poor people, as drugs cost nontrivial amounts of money. Wealthy people just have safety nets that allow them to take greater risks.
  - seanmcdirmid 5y ago
    Wealthy people can also avoid the cheap crappy fentanyl that is in mass circulation right now. Fentanyl is a huge problem for the unhoused here in Seattle, many of them are probably beyond rehabilitation and will require lots of help for the rest of their lives, it is really sad.
    - monocasa 5y ago
      To some degree. More and more coke is being cut with fent. The dealers cutting coke with some other upper still want it to numb your nose, so they add something like lidocaine or increasingly fent as well.
      - seanmcdirmid 5y ago
        Rich people are abusing opioids, Ritalin, Aderall, ecstasy. They are more likely to avoid meth and fent, and pay for quality (though you are right, they can be cheated). The homeless are much more vulnerable to bad drugs that have worse long term effects, especially conditions that are often associated with mental illness.
        monocasa 5y ago
        I've actually seen rich people go out of their way to get fent more than poor people. Once they know what it is, they appreciate the purity of the opioid. Additionally more and more MDMA sold actually isn't but is instead some analog that happens to pass reagent tests with unknown long term effects, which hits rich people as well.
seanmcdirmid 5y ago
Spokane used to be like that, it still is to some extent. My grandfather used to own/run what would be called a flop house (we called it "the empty arms"). Definitely this makes some neighborhoods very sketchy, but not that many homeless around (the ones that can't get housing get on the bus to Seattle or Portland since you can't really live outside in Spokane in the winter). But even Spokane has been changing...the flop houses of old are mostly being redeveloped, housing is becoming not so cheap anymore.

tehwebguy 5y ago

Agreed! It’s not like none of the homeowners or folks in luxury apartments in SF are using recreational drugs, they are just doing it in private because they can.

monocasa 5y ago
Yep, this is what I saw when I moved from the worst schooling filter district in GA to the best in the state. AFAICT wealthy people use drugs more than poor people, as drugs cost nontrivial amounts of money. Wealthy people just have safety nets that allow them to take greater risks.
- seanmcdirmid 5y ago
  Wealthy people can also avoid the cheap crappy fentanyl that is in mass circulation right now. Fentanyl is a huge problem for the unhoused here in Seattle, many of them are probably beyond rehabilitation and will require lots of help for the rest of their lives, it is really sad.
  - monocasa 5y ago
    To some degree. More and more coke is being cut with fent. The dealers cutting coke with some other upper still want it to numb your nose, so they add something like lidocaine or increasingly fent as well.
    - seanmcdirmid 5y ago
      Rich people are abusing opioids, Ritalin, Aderall, ecstasy. They are more likely to avoid meth and fent, and pay for quality (though you are right, they can be cheated). The homeless are much more vulnerable to bad drugs that have worse long term effects, especially conditions that are often associated with mental illness.
      - monocasa 5y ago
        I've actually seen rich people go out of their way to get fent more than poor people. Once they know what it is, they appreciate the purity of the opioid. Additionally more and more MDMA sold actually isn't but is instead some analog that happens to pass reagent tests with unknown long term effects, which hits rich people as well.

seanmcdirmid 5y ago

Spokane used to be like that, it still is to some extent. My grandfather used to own/run what would be called a flop house (we called it "the empty arms"). Definitely this makes some neighborhoods very sketchy, but not that many homeless around (the ones that can't get housing get on the bus to Seattle or Portland since you can't really live outside in Spokane in the winter). But even Spokane has been changing...the flop houses of old are mostly being redeveloped, housing is becoming not so cheap anymore.