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You know what's not exciting? Clicking on an interesting title to be pay walled. Why is this crap allowed on HN?
by saasly 5y ago
You know what's not exciting? Clicking on an interesting title to be pay walled. Why is this crap allowed on HN?
- davidatbu 5y agoCurious, what kind of monetization strategy are you in favor of for long form text content on the web, and why?
- saasly 5y agoI don't care what strategy they use. However, when a site like HN surfaces content it's a jarring experience when there's content you can't access because of a paywall. They can keep their paywall and paid content, just get it off HN.
- netizen-936824 5y agoI guess its a good thing archive crawlers exist. There aren't many pages using techniques to avoid being crawled and cached so it works fine for now
- davidatbu 5y agoI don't think it's official HN policy to keep paywalled stuff out. And is't it a bit presumptious to assume that everyone on HN would like to avoid paywalled stuff? For example, I appreciate being notified about the existence of high-quality paywalled stuff, even if I don't end up paying to unlock it.
- Rebelgecko 5y agoProbably the same one that Doctorow has used to monetize all his Creative Commons novels. It's jarring that I can freely read every book he's ever written (or at least most of them), but not a short blog post about a laptop. It's like if Ubuntu's package manager started selling the ability to read reviews of the different packages. Canonical has already built a company around giving away an entire operating system for free.
- cdoctorow 5y agohttps://pluralistic.net/2021/09/21/monica-byrne/#think-different https://pluralistic.net/2021/09/21/monica-byrne/#think-diffe...
- davidatbu 5y agoI read two articles by Doctorow about his decisions about, and involvement around, copyright [0][1]. I didn't pick up on anything relating to how his decision to use CC affects monetization. So assuming that Doctorow makes a living off of royalties of printed books, as well as speaking engagement fees, I don't think that this model is widely replicable, especially when it comes to currently paywalled content (like from Substack, WSJ, the Economist, NYT, etc), right? [0] http://www.locusmag.com/Features/2007/11/cory-doctorow-creative-commons.html http://www.locusmag.com/Features/2007/11/cory-doctorow-creat... [1] http://www.locusmag.com/Features/2008/11/cory-doctorow-why-i-copyfight.html http://www.locusmag.com/Features/2008/11/cory-doctorow-why-i...
- marssaxman 5y agoWhy does text content on the web need to be monetized at all?
- jer0me 5y agoBecause people need to eat
- marssaxman 5y agoMost of us solve that problem by getting a job.
- davidatbu 5y agoSo I suppose that you are categorically opposed to people's jobs being writing paywalled content. Why? Because it's annoying to see it pop up on HN?
- letitbeirie 5y agoNot to mention the fact that throwing a paywall in front of pretty thinly veiled sponsored content feels like double dipping to begin with.
- schmorptron 5y agoworkaround for medium: open it in a private tab :)