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The International Flag of Planet Earth
- woozyolliew 5y agoWhatever this is supposed to be, I’m pretty sure we’d be better off with fewer flags, not more. https://youtu.be/UTduy7Qkvk8 https://youtu.be/UTduy7Qkvk8
- dudleypippin 5y agoI look forward to seeing what flag Musk plants when he lands. Given that some countries are dropping metal flags on the arctic seabed just to claim the mineral rights, I’m sure it’ll be a source of much drama.
- rbanffy 5y agoWe should just adopt Star Trek’s Federation flag. There are more Trekkies that would support that than this initiative will ever have.
- dragonwriter 5y ago> We should just adopt Star Trek’s Federation flag. The Federation flag is itself an adaptation of the UN flag to represent a union of planets in space instead of nations on Earth (and the Federation is basically a Space UN where the unified military command actually was implemented), so...just use the UN flag for Earth?
- rbanffy 5y agoThe UN is not a great example because the five permanent members of the security council can veto any resolution, essentially making it unable to fully function as a governance body.
- dragonwriter 5y ago> The UN is not a great example because the five permanent members of the security council can veto any resolution Any security council resolution, sure. > essentially making it unable to fully function as a governance body. The UN has many problems, but not having a way to adopt policy in the presence of a security council deadlock was only even arguably one of them for less than five years after the Charter was ratified, prior to the explicit adoption of a General Assembly bypass for Security Council deadlocks in the Uniting for Peace resolution which has been used repeatedly since it's adoption.
- secondcoming 5y agoThey forgot to add a rainbow.
- agmsr 5y agoBorderline Celtic.
- technothrasher 5y agoI was so hoping to see the Tau'ri symbol.
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- rzzzt 5y agoThe lower right ring seems to go over the intersection of all other rings in the center. Is there a reason for the asymmetric arrangement?
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- crancher 5y agoWhat's the current percentage of humans who identify first as Earthers? What percentage is the tipping point?
- lukifer 5y agoRecently encountered this neologism for pledging allegiance to Mother Earth: "matriotism".
- hagbard_c 5y agoLet's hope that question will be asked the other way around in a century or so: What's the current percentage of humans who identify as first-Earthers? So, Musk et al, get crackin'.
- hirundo 5y ago> Purpose of the flag 1. To be used while representing planet Earth. Whoever you are, you do not represent the planet Earth. At most perhaps you represent some fraction of one species on the planet. To claim otherwise is a kind of colonialism. It is no more justified when you do it than when a queen or pope does it. And if in some bizarre scifi scenario you come to represent the planet Earth in some sense ... wouldn't it be better to just use a picture of Earth? It's quite distinctive.
- bostonsre 5y agoI think the point isn't to lay claim to representing planet earth, the point is to unite people on earth to stop the tribalism and bickering over trivial crap. We are a pale blue dot in a sea of blackness and the world would be a better place if everyone thought we were on the same team.
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- justin66 5y ago“People on earth” is a pretty huge group, but I think given the right kind of publicity, a fraction of them could find themselves united in their dislike of the purveyors of that flag.
- akira2501 5y agoI would assume tribalism comes from conflict over limited resources, and not because everyone failed to agree on a logo. I would also assume that there are forces that benefit and profit from fomenting and hosting this "bickering" and simply draping some new bunting over the whole mess isn't going to change much.
- rbanffy 5y agoMaybe we can drive attention to the logo so we start bickering about it and not about limited resources.
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- bostonsre 5y agoThey should have some proportion of green that matches the amount of green found on earth. Maybe some white for clouds would be good too.
- beloch 5y agoSite claims to be non-profit, but links to a site selling the flag they're advertising. Hmm... In the FAQ: "The creator and chief designer, Oskar Pernefeldt, holds the copyrights to the proposed The International Flag of Planet Earth. The reason for this is simple; to protect the integrity of the flag as it is introduced to the public domain. Just as a national flag of any kind is protected by the government agencies behind its creation, we have chosen to keep it this way for the same purpose." Hmmmmmm...
- Freak_NL 5y agoHang on, this site with the same(-ish) flag claims its version is in the public domain: https://earthflag.org/ https://earthflag.org/
- rbanffy 5y agoA Creative Commons license would be more appropriate.
- jagger27 5y agoThe site says it’s CC0.
- rbanffy 5y agoNot sure that works everywhere. And it contradicts the information on the top of this thread, as well as nullifying the justification as well.
- jagger27 5y agoOh I think they’re different flags and projects. The article link flag has gaps between the rings.
- throw0101a 5y ago>> The site says it’s CC0. > Not sure that works everywhere. IANAL, so I can't say it works "everywhere", but CC0 was created to give up as many restrictions in as many jurisdictions as possible: > CC0 helps solve this problem by giving creators a way to waive all their copyright and related rights in their works to the fullest extent allowed by law. CC0 is a universal instrument that is not adapted to the laws of any particular legal jurisdiction, similar to many open source software licenses. And while no tool, not even CC0, can guarantee a complete relinquishment of all copyright and database rights in every jurisdiction, we believe it provides the best and most complete alternative for contributing a work to the public domain given the many complex and diverse copyright and database systems around the world. * https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/cc0/ https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/cc... If you are concerned about a particular jurisdiction, CC has national chapters that perhaps have more localized information: * https://network.creativecommons.org/chapter/ https://network.creativecommons.org/chapter/
- tomc1985 5y agoThe flag of planet earth should be like the flag of planet earth in sci-fi and comic strips... a white silhouette of the globe against a medium blue background This one just looks dumb
- rbanffy 5y ago> a white silhouette of the globe against a medium blue background And make the silhouette drawn with stars, one for every country.
- hericium 5y agoI'm getting a slight "minimalistic mandala" vibe which is nice but doesn't work for me on a flag.
- NikolaeVarius 5y agoNahhhh. Just looks like they ran out of ideas and remixed the Olympics logo I like the one in Seveneves more > Selecting the color scheme had consumed resources equivalent to the gross domestic product of a medium-sized country. They had settled on a thin red line down the center, symbolizing the bloodline of the human race, flanked by bands of white, symbolizing starlight, flanked by bands of green, symbolizing the ecosystem that would keep the Arkies alive, flanked by bands of blue, symbolizing water, and, finally, edged by bands of black, symbolizing space. The discussion had been as lively as the results were complicated. Black symbolized death to Westerners, white symbolized it to Chinese, and so on. This design offended everybody.
- Freak_NL 5y ago> This design offended everybody. Bit of a Douglas Adams moment for Neal Stephenson there. Seveneves is a good read by the way.
- noasaservice 5y ago>> Selecting the color scheme had consumed resources equivalent to the gross domestic product of a medium-sized country. So... The flag will be generated on the blockchain as a NFT? Talk about a waste of a waste of resources :)
- kordlessagain 5y agoThis is an example of sacred geometry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_geometry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_geometry
- schmich 5y agoI immediately thought of the Flower of Life [1]. The symbol on the flag is a rotated, stylized version of the 7-circle rosette seen on that page. Lots of spiritual connotations. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlapping_circles_grid#Modern_usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlapping_circles_grid#Moder...
- cyborgx7 5y agoThis is dumb and I can't even articulate why it is dumb because I can't think of a reason why someone would think it's good.
- whatshisface 5y agoI don't know what everybody's talking about, this is obviously the flag of earth: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/enfuturama/images/f/f2/ZoidbergWithFlag.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20090624004618 https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/enfuturama/images/f/f2/Zoi...
- wffurr 5y agoDid you mean to link to the DOOP flag? https://theinfosphere.org/Democratic_Order_of_Planets https://theinfosphere.org/Democratic_Order_of_Planets Your link just shows me a gray box.
- whatshisface 5y agoI linked the flag of the Government of Earth. It's the US flag but with the fifty stars replaced by a picture of earth. (It loads fine for me.)
- kingcharles 5y agoI propose this one instead: https://i.redd.it/5e9h3s9tokw71.jpg https://i.redd.it/5e9h3s9tokw71.jpg
- zoomablemind 5y ago...looks like some fusion of Gaiam Inc. logo and Olympic rings. International flag to display where? Everywhere on Earth? Or only in places/countries which recognize to be part of ... Earth? On the orbit, least being confused to be interlopers? I get it, the creators may be trying to be pro-active for the time Mars or/and Moon get colonized, or the worst case - Aliens drop by and refuse to stay quiet, thus we won't get confused who's who in the parking lot. Here we go again: 'God-fearing Earthlings, unite under the flag to purge the unfaithful heteroplanetarians!"
- elil17 5y agoIsn’t the flag of the UN the current flag of the Earth? Almost every country has at least observer status (except for Taiwan, Kosovo, Western Sahara, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, and North Cyprus). Much like any other organization, the UN does not represent the values of many people around the world. In the same way, I don’t feel like my government completely represents my values. At the same time, I’m able to appreciate my country’s flag because, to me, it doesn’t just stand for my country’s government, but also my country’s culture and my fellow countrypeople. I think the same thing goes for the UN - to me, it represents everyone on Earth. Save for Taiwan and Kosovo, these are all territories which are still disputed, not just rhetorically, but practically. For example, while the PRC claims Taiwan as a territory, they’re not currently trying to exert any control over it. In contrast, Turkish troops in North Cyprus are in a standoff with Greece.
- marcodiego 5y agoSeems so arbitrary... I like this proposal: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandera_de_la_Tierra#/media/Archivo:Flag_of_Earth.svg https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandera_de_la_Tierra#/media/Ar...
- dudleypippin 5y agoLove that one! My first thought was “we’ve already got one, you see; it’s very nice.” When I decided to start flying flags a few years back, I got one of these. Good conversation starter with the neighbors. (And my Kerbals always flew their missions under this flag, too!)
- georgelyon 5y agoLooks like Samsung decided to copy work from Ive’s new company: https://www.wallpaper.com/design/terra-carta-seal-design-lovefrom-jony-ive https://www.wallpaper.com/design/terra-carta-seal-design-lov...
- sputr 5y agoI've been a big fan of this flag: https://www.planetaryflags.com/ https://www.planetaryflags.com/ It's an (open source) system of flags for the entire solar system.
- kingcharles 5y agoMy opinion is that these are awful. Mercury and Venus especially are so close that with printing margins and color-calibration issues, you'll never ever be able to tell them apart in real life.
- zagrebian 5y agoLooks like one of those “how many circles can you count” tests.
- acqbu 5y agolol!
- StevePerkins 5y agoEsperanto is similarly futile. But at least you have fun learning about linguistics, arguably have an easier time learning subsequent natural languages, and might get to interact with other people online or in meetups that you wouldn't be able to communicate with otherwise. This is just... a flag. That you stare at for about 5-10 seconds, before realizing that flags only work as a uniting force when they exclude other groups.
- jlundberg 5y agoI printed a bunch of these as stickers when this flag was first introduced. Still have it on my laptop. Anyone else who did the same? :)