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Well, I don't want to be one of the "Oh god this ruins everything I've ever loved" people, aka the hyperbole crew, but ... seriously? I manicure my twitter stre

Well, I don't want to be one of the "Oh god this ruins everything I've ever loved" people, aka the hyperbole crew, but ... seriously? I manicure my twitter stream pretty closely. If they're raising the signal:noise ratio, I hope they give me a way to ... I don't know, not see it somehow.

RexRollman 15y ago
I'm surprised that they have never offered a paid, pro version of Twitter. Even features as simple as no-ads and access to their complete timeline history would be enough to entice some people.
- 0x12 15y ago
  Or just one that simply works. Business idea for twitter: paid access to the old, non ajaxified interface.
- MatthewPhillips 15y ago
  The dual ad-based and paid ad-free model doesn't work. The existence of an ad-free version devalues the ad-based model. The most attractive customers will pay for the ad-free version so advertisers won't pay you as much. And you can't pay Twitter's bills on the 0.1% of users who'll pay $5 a month. Ad-based is the only viable solution. They'll lose a tiny minority of ad-hating zealots and profit meanwhile.
  - hebejebelus 15y ago
    > And you can't pay Twitter's bills on the 0.1% of users who'll pay $5 a month. I wonder do their bills exceed $5 million a month. (I know, you pulled numbers from nowhere. I'm only making the point that they have an absolutely enormous userbase[0].) [0]http://thenextweb.com/twitter/2011/09/08/twitter-100m-users-per-month-50-log-on-every-day-55-on-mobile/ http://thenextweb.com/twitter/2011/09/08/twitter-100m-users-...
    - sbov 15y ago
      $500k a month: 0.1% of 100 million is 100k, not 1 million.
      - hebejebelus 15y ago
        Whoops. Sorry, I haven't slept in 34 hours.
- spitfire 15y ago
  They can't do that. Then you'd have revenue to base valuations on. Revenue is a big no-no in silicon valley, it punctures the reality distortion bubble.
  - kristiandupont 15y ago
    You bring up an excellent point about the difference between bootstrapping and being funded. When you are on your own, profits are good, period. But if you have to show people numbers, small numbers are bad and it might be more "strategic" of you to show them other numbers (like usercount) that are big instead.
joezydeco 15y ago
So what stops me from writing a client that whitelists only the users I want to see? Unless Twitter completely changes their API, or camouflages ads as tweets from my follow list, how can they lock you into seeing ads?
- protomyth 15y ago
  Not giving you access to the APIs for a new, "misbehaving" client is one way.

RexRollman 15y ago

I'm surprised that they have never offered a paid, pro version of Twitter. Even features as simple as no-ads and access to their complete timeline history would be enough to entice some people.

0x12 15y ago
Or just one that simply works. Business idea for twitter: paid access to the old, non ajaxified interface.
MatthewPhillips 15y ago
The dual ad-based and paid ad-free model doesn't work. The existence of an ad-free version devalues the ad-based model. The most attractive customers will pay for the ad-free version so advertisers won't pay you as much. And you can't pay Twitter's bills on the 0.1% of users who'll pay $5 a month. Ad-based is the only viable solution. They'll lose a tiny minority of ad-hating zealots and profit meanwhile.
- hebejebelus 15y ago
  > And you can't pay Twitter's bills on the 0.1% of users who'll pay $5 a month. I wonder do their bills exceed $5 million a month. (I know, you pulled numbers from nowhere. I'm only making the point that they have an absolutely enormous userbase[0].) [0]http://thenextweb.com/twitter/2011/09/08/twitter-100m-users-per-month-50-log-on-every-day-55-on-mobile/ http://thenextweb.com/twitter/2011/09/08/twitter-100m-users-...
  - sbov 15y ago
    $500k a month: 0.1% of 100 million is 100k, not 1 million.
    - hebejebelus 15y ago
      Whoops. Sorry, I haven't slept in 34 hours.
spitfire 15y ago
They can't do that. Then you'd have revenue to base valuations on. Revenue is a big no-no in silicon valley, it punctures the reality distortion bubble.
- kristiandupont 15y ago
  You bring up an excellent point about the difference between bootstrapping and being funded. When you are on your own, profits are good, period. But if you have to show people numbers, small numbers are bad and it might be more "strategic" of you to show them other numbers (like usercount) that are big instead.

joezydeco 15y ago

So what stops me from writing a client that whitelists only the users I want to see? Unless Twitter completely changes their API, or camouflages ads as tweets from my follow list, how can they lock you into seeing ads?

protomyth 15y ago
Not giving you access to the APIs for a new, "misbehaving" client is one way.