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Yes. My understanding is habit building strengthens the will. I consider the process re-structuring, or re-patterning the mind. Maybe I am missing something but

Yes. My understanding is habit building strengthens the will. I consider the process re-structuring, or re-patterning the mind. Maybe I am missing something but will power and self-discipline is a skill that needs to be learned, not a quality one just has or doesn't have.

anonymoushn 5y ago
"habit building" is something that requires conscientiousness up front! It is not all that helpful to tell low-conscientiousness people that they should get some conscientiousness if they want to do the thing that gives them more conscientiousness. I'll try reading these books, but I expect it to be less helpful than taking stimulants every day.
- trinsic2 5y ago
  Yea I think this is where I misunderstood by misinterpreting the word "conscientiousness" It seems to me, and I might be wrong, that desire to do one's duty, If I am correctly interpreting the word "Conscientiousness" comes from finding one's specific purpose. When one is doing a duty that is not in line with one's particular purpose for being alive, then no amount of guidance is going to help. Instead, I would suggest that one go in search of one's purpose in any way that works for that particular person. This is why I think making a living without some focus on purpose is the main problem for many people when it comes to finding meaning in life. If there is no meaning in life, whats the point, hence the lack of "Conscientiousness" maybe.
  - anonymoushn 5y ago
    Sorry, conscientiousness (big five personality trait) is a bit different from conscientiousness (Oxford dictionary entry). In particular, people with low levels of the big five personality trait constantly fail to do things they want to do. I posted about the big five personality trait because TFA discusses discipline and ADHD, where ADHD is having a very low level of the big five personality trait, but discipline is probably not exactly the same as the big five personality trait. If someone cannot remember their keys or has trouble playing email tag, their problem may not be that their life is not rich with meaning.
    - trinsic2 5y ago
      Understood. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't mean to say that people that have these challenges have a life of no meaning. I meant to say that meaning can be found in living (whatever that living may be)

anonymoushn 5y ago

"habit building" is something that requires conscientiousness up front! It is not all that helpful to tell low-conscientiousness people that they should get some conscientiousness if they want to do the thing that gives them more conscientiousness. I'll try reading these books, but I expect it to be less helpful than taking stimulants every day.

trinsic2 5y ago
Yea I think this is where I misunderstood by misinterpreting the word "conscientiousness" It seems to me, and I might be wrong, that desire to do one's duty, If I am correctly interpreting the word "Conscientiousness" comes from finding one's specific purpose. When one is doing a duty that is not in line with one's particular purpose for being alive, then no amount of guidance is going to help. Instead, I would suggest that one go in search of one's purpose in any way that works for that particular person. This is why I think making a living without some focus on purpose is the main problem for many people when it comes to finding meaning in life. If there is no meaning in life, whats the point, hence the lack of "Conscientiousness" maybe.
- anonymoushn 5y ago
  Sorry, conscientiousness (big five personality trait) is a bit different from conscientiousness (Oxford dictionary entry). In particular, people with low levels of the big five personality trait constantly fail to do things they want to do. I posted about the big five personality trait because TFA discusses discipline and ADHD, where ADHD is having a very low level of the big five personality trait, but discipline is probably not exactly the same as the big five personality trait. If someone cannot remember their keys or has trouble playing email tag, their problem may not be that their life is not rich with meaning.
  - trinsic2 5y ago
    Understood. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't mean to say that people that have these challenges have a life of no meaning. I meant to say that meaning can be found in living (whatever that living may be)