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Almost as if reducing mortality/hospitalization is an irrelevant metric to you. Almost as if an abstract social construct as “rights” is more important to you
by ukj 5y ago
Almost as if reducing mortality/hospitalization is an irrelevant metric to you.
Almost as if an abstract social construct as “rights” is more important to you than actual health.
- iqanq 5y agoYes, personal freedom is to me infinitely more important than the health of others.
- maxerickson 5y agoIs your freedom primary? Like if a group of people banded together and said that they didn't want to associate with unvaccinated people, should they have the freedom to do that without interference from the unvaccinated?
- ukj 5y agoIf that were true, and you were willing to allow me the same level of freedom as you demand for yourself then surely my freedom to harm you trumps your well-being?
- iqanq 5y agoYour freedom to attack me physically? No, because you don't have to do anything not to attack me - you just don't. Your freedom not to get vaccinated? Evidently, since getting vaccinated is a medical procedure. I can't force you to go through it.
- ukj 5y agoFreedom *noun* the power to act, think and speak as one wants. I can physically attack you if I want to and in your very own words my freedom is infinitely more important than your health. What is confusing you?
- vidarh 5y agoAnd our personal freedoms are worth enough to us to justify limiting our exposure to people like you. You have no right to impose yourself on us.
- variola 5y agoI suppose you also think Typhoid Mary got a raw deal? What on earth makes you think your personal freedom is more important than the health of others? You have no right to harm others.
- bmeski 5y agoYou seem to misunderstand the entire reason the U.S. was created. Don't like it, leave. Seriously.
- ukj 5y agoYou seem to misunderstand the entire reason humans form societies. Strength in numbers. Economies of scale. Division of labour. The collective well-being of individuals. If you don’t like all the social perks and safety nets you are enjoying - go be a hermit.
- dekhn 5y agoNote that the Supreme Court validated Jacobson vs. Massachusetts, supporting the right of the government to mandate vaccines (remember, George Washington mandated vaccines for his troops) and showing that the power of the state ultimately trumps the freedoms of people. Honestly, you're making arguments (in multiple comments) that make you look petulant, rather than providing a reasonable argument againt vaccine mandates.
- xyzzyz 5y ago
- dekhn 5y agoThe penalty in the case is irrelevant to the nature of the government's power. Also equating vaccines to apartheid is unrealistic and in poor taste.
- xyzzyz 5y agoNo, it is very much relevant. And, systematic denial of employment, education, access to government services etc to a group based on a medical condition very much is apartheid. It is in poor taste to deny it, but I guess the apologists in South Africa were legalistically talking about “nature of the government’s power” too.