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A year ago this would've been called a conspiracy theory. Saying that this would happen on Facebook or Twitter would've been called misleading or even got you b
by iqanq 5y ago
A year ago this would've been called a conspiracy theory. Saying that this would happen on Facebook or Twitter would've been called misleading or even got you banned.
- scrollaway 5y agoA year ago, the thought that so many people would reject vaccines that can help end the pandemic was unrealistic. Soooo…
- guilhas 5y agoWrong, a year ago all countries vaccination target was lower Initially started with the medicine standard herd immunity of 65%, which includes vaccinated and recovered And now even 90% vaccinated is supposedly unacceptable https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56722186 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56722186
- Daishiman 5y agoBecause the disease has changed. Are you ignorant of that?
- lordloki 5y agoThe disease has changed to reduce the effectiveness of the vaccines to the point where they don't show any significant ability to stop the spread. The current vaccines may help the individual against Omicron but does nothing to help the collective. Are you ignorant of that?
- eli_gottlieb 5y agoRight, the solution is to improve and update the vaccines.
- guilhas 5y agoAnd in the meantime not force anyone, since the vaccine is experimental, and the efficacy lower than previously thought
- Daishiman 5y agoThe efficacy for reducing disease severity is super high and it's what's keeping many jurisdictions from not getting hospitals stuffed with Omicron patients. The vaccine isn't experimental, stop with that stupid trope. How many billions more patients do you want before you'll consider the known data definitive?
- Daishiman 5y agoAh I wasn't aware that reduction in rates of hospitalization by a factor of 20 do nothing to help the collective. What kind of ridiculous argument is this?
- guilhas 5y agoYes it changed to be less deadly, making vaccines, "reduction of severe disease", less necessary? So will they revise and lower the vaccination targets? Omicron up to 70% less likely to need hospital care https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59769969 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59769969
- Daishiman 5y agoNo, because with an increase in R0 in counties with low vaccination rates the hospital wards get filled up.
- guilhas 5y agoSouth Africa with only 23% double vaccinated, reported the same. R0 overtaken by hospitalization probability. Leading to an overall reduction in 80% of hospitalizations Omicron Has 80% Lower Risk of Hospitalization in South Africa https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-22/omicron-has-80-lower-risk-of-hospitalization-new-study-shows https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-22/omicron-h... Omicron has passed peak in South Africa, causing relatively few deaths and hospitalizations, authorities say https://www.yahoo.com/news/omicron-passed-peak-south-africa-121916683.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/omicron-passed-peak-south-africa-...
- grepfru_it 5y agoNope, all of that was discussed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBuP40H4Tko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBuP40H4Tko
- dudul 5y agoA year ago Democrat leaders in the US were saying that they would never trust a "Trump vaccine".