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It's quite amusing though that so many brain cycles were wasted trying to figure out how ML image processing was to blame. I don't recall anyone in the previous
by Veen 5y ago
It's quite amusing though that so many brain cycles were wasted trying to figure out how ML image processing was to blame. I don't recall anyone in the previous thread saying: maybe there's a leaf between the camera and the woman's head. It certainly didn't occur to me that it was something so obvious.
(btw, is the "Karen" reference really necessary? It's a sexist, racist insult that detracts from an otherwise interesting comment)
- dan_pixelflow 5y agoGenuine Q: how is it racist?
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- ravar 5y agoIts racist against the group that you "can't" be racist against
- philosopher1234 5y agoIt’s racist against the group who can handle a bit of racism.
- ratsmack 5y agoYou didn't define which group that is... maybe you can enlighten us.
- hagbard_c 5y agoWhite people, particularly white women. I'm fairly sure you knew this? Here's the definition of the pejorative "Karen" [1]: Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman perceived as entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. The term is a meme depicting white women who use their privilege to demand their own way. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)
- ctdonath 5y agoA demeaning term applied to a subcategory of whites.
- geocrasher 5y agoStereotyping != Racism Every culture, color, creed, nationality, and gender has Karens.
- hagbard_c 5y agoKaren is a pejorative term for a white woman perceived as entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal [1] so it is just as "racist" as many other "racist" things. If "Karen" isn't racist then neither are many - if not most - things which are deemed racist. I'm fine with that so I hope you're sincere and are willing to follow this old-new definition of racism. If the term goes back to where it belongs - the assumption of people's traits based on their physical appearance with a heavy emphasis on skin tone - and it ceases to be bandied around as a label for anything which happens to displease the one doing the labelling the world will become a better place. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)
- geocrasher 5y agoI sincerely appreciate your comment! With that definition in mind then I can understand why people downvoted my comment so much. To anyone I offended, I sincerely apologize. The truth of the matter is that I'll call anybody a Karen who is dumb enough to deserve the label. I don't care about color they are I don't care where they're from I don't care what they look like or how their hairstyle is done or what they're wearing or how many kids they have or how rich they are or how poor they are. I could have just as easily said a***e. But I chose Karen because people who act like a Karen are idiots.
- tw04 5y agoThere were a bunch of people who did say "I bet a leaf fell off a tree when you snapped the photo" - and the OP insisted that didn't happen.
- geocrasher 5y agoWell, to be fair, he was correct. That's not what happened.
- mirekrusin 5y agoNobody dare to insult saying that the leaves must have been in front of a face, just like nobody would dare to say to "google search doesn't work on my computer!" - "did you turn it on?".
- donarb 5y ago> is the "Karen" reference really necessary? It's a sexist, racist insult And also misused quite frequently. Its origin was a white woman who called the police on a group of black people who were doing nothing wrong other than being black in the wrong place.
- acrobatsunfish 5y agoI don't know where you heard that, but for a long time it was just a fill in name for a middle aged woman with a short hairstyle who would usually cause issues at customer service in retail. The "I'd like to see your manager" and the Karen stereotype go way further back. It's not usually about race with a Karen it's about power and getting their way even if that's not how the rules are set up. (This coupon is a year expired but I want it, this TV was marked for a dollar so you have to sell it to me, etc.)
- jazzyjackson 5y agoyou can’t very well say a meme is misused, a meme is whatever it is. Also, central park karen is a recent addition to the long history of using karen as a punchline, anytime you think you know the origin story, check know your meme first, you might be surprised: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/karen https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/karen
- mkr-hn 5y agoAnil Dash's interview with one of the co-founders of that site was interesting. https://blog.glitch.com/episode/function-episode-3 https://blog.glitch.com/episode/function-episode-3
- phkahler 5y agoSo to make it meme it gets abstracted to "some self absorbed busybody stirring up unnecessary trouble for other people" or something similar. Nothing really racist or sexist about it at that point is there?
- nerdponx 5y ago
- kevin_thibedeau 5y agoYou don't see men playing the victimization card at the drop of a pin. It is a genuine social phenomenon worthy of disregard.
- magicalist 5y ago> You don't see men playing the victimization card at the drop of a pin I don't believe this was said jokingly, but just to be sure, this definitely happens all the time.
- hagbard_c 5y agoWhere do you see men okay the victimization card at the drop of a pin? As far as I know there are as rare as hen's teeth, I have not seen a single example of either. If you have some examples I'd be interested in learning about them.
- iszomer 5y agoStill interesting to see how people can rush to blame ML post-processing over a trivially overlooked parallax effect even when the former argument/theory may still potentially exist. > btw, is the "Karen" reference really necessary No, it wasn't necessary but at this point, what isn't considered a slur anymore?