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I find that exposing my kids to a variety of perspectives helps them become a more well rounded person. I reject the idea that mere exposure to an idea will mak

I find that exposing my kids to a variety of perspectives helps them become a more well rounded person. I reject the idea that mere exposure to an idea will make them become any one thing, and that I have to shelter them.

watwut 5y ago
The book is not something you give the kids to read. It is something you read in order to be able to shape then in a certain way. It is not about exposing them to ideas, it is about making them certain way, because it sounds cool. --------- But also with exposure of ideas, pretty much no one exposes jids to all ideas equally with no framing. Approving or disapproving framing is there, whether direct or subtle.
- anonfornoreason 5y ago
  “It’s about making them a certain way because it sounds cool” is an interesting statement to make. It assumes my mental state and motivations. With all things parenting, there are many correct ways to go about raising kids. Whatever you want to call it, I’m trying to raise mine to be resilient, recognize self imposed limitations, to be humble and to recognize the value of hard work and self discipline. Feel free to disregard the suggestion of those things aren’t interesting to you as a parent raising a child. Finally, there’s a huge amount of warrior worship these days (I have my own theory why but I’ll hold that back), so I understand skepticism of the book based off its title.
  - watwut 5y ago
    > It’s about making them a certain way because it sounds cool” is an interesting statement to make. It assumes my mental state and motivations. It was snarky comment about book title. Which is super clearly about sounding cool. Unless it has stuff about how to indoctrinate kids into beheading enemies without feeling of guilt or some such. Nothing to do with your motivation.
    - mrkentutbabi 5y ago
      What about defending your own country or family from invasion?
      - watwut 5y ago
        That would be "soldiers" and "army". Which sounds less cool and less mystical. And then again, the terms cover aggressors too. So you want the kids to distinguish between defensive and "take over the world" army in the first place. People who identify with "fighter" will join any army, but especially attacking army. It projects strength and aggression. Pretty much all conquerors to be including genocide first taught young men to have "warrior" values. I don't specifically want to raise kids to be soldiers either, tho they may join. In that case, army is quite capable of shaping recruits into the mold they need. And it is different mold then civilian life requires.

watwut 5y ago

The book is not something you give the kids to read. It is something you read in order to be able to shape then in a certain way. It is not about exposing them to ideas, it is about making them certain way, because it sounds cool. --------- But also with exposure of ideas, pretty much no one exposes jids to all ideas equally with no framing. Approving or disapproving framing is there, whether direct or subtle.

anonfornoreason 5y ago
“It’s about making them a certain way because it sounds cool” is an interesting statement to make. It assumes my mental state and motivations. With all things parenting, there are many correct ways to go about raising kids. Whatever you want to call it, I’m trying to raise mine to be resilient, recognize self imposed limitations, to be humble and to recognize the value of hard work and self discipline. Feel free to disregard the suggestion of those things aren’t interesting to you as a parent raising a child. Finally, there’s a huge amount of warrior worship these days (I have my own theory why but I’ll hold that back), so I understand skepticism of the book based off its title.
- watwut 5y ago
  > It’s about making them a certain way because it sounds cool” is an interesting statement to make. It assumes my mental state and motivations. It was snarky comment about book title. Which is super clearly about sounding cool. Unless it has stuff about how to indoctrinate kids into beheading enemies without feeling of guilt or some such. Nothing to do with your motivation.
  - mrkentutbabi 5y ago
    What about defending your own country or family from invasion?
    - watwut 5y ago
      That would be "soldiers" and "army". Which sounds less cool and less mystical. And then again, the terms cover aggressors too. So you want the kids to distinguish between defensive and "take over the world" army in the first place. People who identify with "fighter" will join any army, but especially attacking army. It projects strength and aggression. Pretty much all conquerors to be including genocide first taught young men to have "warrior" values. I don't specifically want to raise kids to be soldiers either, tho they may join. In that case, army is quite capable of shaping recruits into the mold they need. And it is different mold then civilian life requires.