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Sounds like Powershell to me. I'm down, as long as the syntax is as simple and terse as on UNIX-based systems and not what Microsoft did (were they paid by the

Sounds like Powershell to me. I'm down, as long as the syntax is as simple and terse as on UNIX-based systems and not what Microsoft did (were they paid by the character for flag names?)

gerdesj 5y ago
Absolutely. For example: why can't "Get-TrustAuthorityKeyProviderClientCertificateCSR" simply be "takpccc" as $DEITY intended? If your keyboard's tab key is still legibly labelled then you aren't trying hard enough or have an eidetic memory and fast typing skills!
- notreallyserio 5y ago
  Amusingly HN cuts off the end of the command you typed, I assume using css overflow attributes (don't have an easy way to tell on my UA). I assume it stops at "cate"[0]. I see this sort of chopping a lot, which naturally makes sharing PS commands frustrating -- although there may be workarounds like using `backticks`. 0: Nope, had to paste it to see it ends with "cateCSR".
- emj 5y ago
  That is basically integrations, there is never going to be nice integrations to my Cobol mainframe linked to a Springboot fuzzbuzz. As is stated in other comments the big issue is usually about being cross platform, and that is a subset of the ls problem: Most of the time you have control over your inputs, until you haven't. This is true for every language even Python which is obnoxious about that. What I mean is that you will always hit edgecases in integrations and you never have time to write new ones. I always felt that powershell was tab unfriendly, the Get- prefix is hard to get used to. I may be wrong that they have a good way to deal with one-off integrations in a sane manner.
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  They could at least change the names order and start with the specific part (TrustAuthorityKeyProviderClientCertificateCSR-Get), so the (braindead) MS version of tab completion would be useful.
alkonaut 5y ago
Powershell is usually terse enough as one uses aliases for interactive? (Not to mention tab completion) E.g list files Shell: “ls” Powershell: “ls” Show sizes of files in size order Poweshell: ls | sort length | select length in Unix: find -maxdepth 1 -type f -printf '%s\n' | sort - n Lovely. I use the long form stuff for scripting in Powershell (tab completed in the editor) but it’s not like anyone writes “Get-ChildItem” instead of dir/ls/gci.

Sounds like Powershell to me. I'm down, as long as the syntax is as simple and terse as on UNIX-based systems and not what Microsoft did (were they paid by the character for flag names?)

gerdesj 5y ago

Absolutely. For example: why can't "Get-TrustAuthorityKeyProviderClientCertificateCSR" simply be "takpccc" as $DEITY intended? If your keyboard's tab key is still legibly labelled then you aren't trying hard enough or have an eidetic memory and fast typing skills!

notreallyserio 5y ago
Amusingly HN cuts off the end of the command you typed, I assume using css overflow attributes (don't have an easy way to tell on my UA). I assume it stops at "cate"[0]. I see this sort of chopping a lot, which naturally makes sharing PS commands frustrating -- although there may be workarounds like using `backticks`. 0: Nope, had to paste it to see it ends with "cateCSR".
emj 5y ago
That is basically integrations, there is never going to be nice integrations to my Cobol mainframe linked to a Springboot fuzzbuzz. As is stated in other comments the big issue is usually about being cross platform, and that is a subset of the ls problem: Most of the time you have control over your inputs, until you haven't. This is true for every language even Python which is obnoxious about that. What I mean is that you will always hit edgecases in integrations and you never have time to write new ones. I always felt that powershell was tab unfriendly, the Get- prefix is hard to get used to. I may be wrong that they have a good way to deal with one-off integrations in a sane manner.
marcosdumay 5y ago
They could at least change the names order and start with the specific part (TrustAuthorityKeyProviderClientCertificateCSR-Get), so the (braindead) MS version of tab completion would be useful.

alkonaut 5y ago

Powershell is usually terse enough as one uses aliases for interactive? (Not to mention tab completion) E.g list files Shell: “ls” Powershell: “ls” Show sizes of files in size order Poweshell: ls | sort length | select length in Unix: find -maxdepth 1 -type f -printf '%s\n' | sort - n Lovely. I use the long form stuff for scripting in Powershell (tab completed in the editor) but it’s not like anyone writes “Get-ChildItem” instead of dir/ls/gci.