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Here's mine. My children are very young, my wife and I are young and we workout 6 days a week. We eat healthy and are healthy. I'm not going to give my childr

Here's mine. My children are very young, my wife and I are young and we workout 6 days a week. We eat healthy and are healthy. I'm not going to give my children a vaccine against something that has a miniscule mortality rate. And I'm not going to get vaccinated because I'm not morbidly obese or old. Lose weight and stay safe. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi...

justin66 5y ago
It's not just yourself and your family you are putting at risk, it's everyone you encounter.
- maxk42 5y ago
  Yet people who are vaccinated can still transmit the disease. So how do you quantify the excess risk? Particularly for those who are young and healthy and unlikely to develop severe viral loads or complications? Are there any studies that show transmission rate for vaccinated vs. unvaccinated by age range?
  - justin66 5y ago
    > Yet people who are vaccinated can still transmit the disease. They're over ninety percent more likely than their unvaccinated counterparts to remain uninfected, in which case they will not transmit the disease. The questions regarding reduced viral shedding among the infected but vaccinated, and how much that effects that population's transmission rate, is interesting but probably secondary, I would think. (I don't know quite whether those were all rhetorical questions or something you wanted a dissertation on :D )
    - Jensson 5y ago
      > They're over ninety percent more likely than their unvaccinated counterparts to remain uninfected, in which case they will not transmit the disease. Not against omicron, it basically ignores vaccines. Vaccinated people might be a bit less serious, but they still get ill and we have had many super spreader events among vaccinated populations where almost everyone exposed got it. Vaccine might reduce spread a little, but vaccinated people spread it so much already that it can't be anywhere close to 90% not spreading.
      - disgruntledphd2 5y ago
        > Not against omicron, it basically ignores vaccines. Vaccinated people might be a bit less serious, but they still get ill and we have had many super spreader events among vaccinated populations where almost everyone exposed got it. Omicron increases vaccine escape rates from about 5% to 30% which is bad, but not ignoring vaccines.
- sergiotapia 5y ago
  Thems the breaks. I'm not going to inject my children or my wife.
stefan_ 5y ago
Hey, it's you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Sinistra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Sinistra
- sergiotapia 5y ago
  One case among published CDC numbers. You should know better.

justin66 5y ago

It's not just yourself and your family you are putting at risk, it's everyone you encounter.

maxk42 5y ago
Yet people who are vaccinated can still transmit the disease. So how do you quantify the excess risk? Particularly for those who are young and healthy and unlikely to develop severe viral loads or complications? Are there any studies that show transmission rate for vaccinated vs. unvaccinated by age range?
- justin66 5y ago
  > Yet people who are vaccinated can still transmit the disease. They're over ninety percent more likely than their unvaccinated counterparts to remain uninfected, in which case they will not transmit the disease. The questions regarding reduced viral shedding among the infected but vaccinated, and how much that effects that population's transmission rate, is interesting but probably secondary, I would think. (I don't know quite whether those were all rhetorical questions or something you wanted a dissertation on :D )
  - Jensson 5y ago
    > They're over ninety percent more likely than their unvaccinated counterparts to remain uninfected, in which case they will not transmit the disease. Not against omicron, it basically ignores vaccines. Vaccinated people might be a bit less serious, but they still get ill and we have had many super spreader events among vaccinated populations where almost everyone exposed got it. Vaccine might reduce spread a little, but vaccinated people spread it so much already that it can't be anywhere close to 90% not spreading.
    - disgruntledphd2 5y ago
      > Not against omicron, it basically ignores vaccines. Vaccinated people might be a bit less serious, but they still get ill and we have had many super spreader events among vaccinated populations where almost everyone exposed got it. Omicron increases vaccine escape rates from about 5% to 30% which is bad, but not ignoring vaccines.
sergiotapia 5y ago
Thems the breaks. I'm not going to inject my children or my wife.

stefan_ 5y ago

Hey, it's you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Sinistra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Sinistra

sergiotapia 5y ago
One case among published CDC numbers. You should know better.