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I don't find them either outrageous or offensive. They're just not true, that's all.

by Renegade98 5y ago

rsyring 5y ago
In that case, "If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied" (1 Cor 15).
- gibbonsrcool 5y ago
  "I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11
  - no-dr-onboard 5y ago
    Struggling to find the relevance in this one.
    - Eldt 5y ago
      Relevant in that you don't take stupid advice to heart
      - no-dr-onboard 5y ago
        What about it is stupid? Paul’s teaching here is that he’s not permitting women to be teachers in the church. That in God’s decreed order everyone has a role. Male and female have roles to fill and duties unique to their sex. This isn’t misandry or misogyny. Men and women complement each other. Male nor female, there is no difference in dignity and worth.
- iab 5y ago
  > We are not saying that Evolution can't exist, only that it is guided by His Noodly Appendage. - Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (attributed)
- belltaco 5y ago
  "They will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” Mark 16:18 ESV
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claytongulick 5y ago
It sort of depends on your definition of truth doesn't it? Most people accept that 2 + 2 = 4 is true. But this is only accurate within the math realm, which is a purely abstract concept. There's no such thing as "2" in the physical world. I view most religions in a similar way, they are a form of truth, that exist within their abstract realm. I read a fantasy novel once that had a character that believed in religion. All of them. At the same time. Sincerely. I always admired him.
- jsjsbdkj 5y ago
  There's "two" in the sense of "I have two loaves of bread, you give me two loaves of bread, now I have four". Abstract math arose as a way to describe physical things. That's a pretty concrete definition of truth.
- yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
  > There's no such thing as "2" in the physical world …wat. ಠ_ಠ At this point, society has quite a lot of science and engineering relying on the fact that numbers have objective meaning in the physical world.
  - jiggawatts 5y ago
    You can’t physically represent or measure PI to more than about 20 decimal places no matter how you arrange matter. The curvature of spacetime itself will ruin any such attempt, not to mention eventually running into the limits of the observable universe itself. Similarly, according to QM, the number of fundamental particles in any system is not well-defined. They’re constantly appearing and disappearing. How do you count “people”? Easily and consistently? What about conjoined twins? Still doable? What if the twins are highly asymmetric with one twin just a bump on the head of the other? Just a few cells? Shared brain but seperate bodies? Still easy to “count”?
    - yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
      One functioning engine will get this aeroplane off the ground. Zero functioning engines will not. Yeah, pretty easy to count.

I don't find them either outrageous or offensive. They're just not true, that's all.

rsyring 5y ago

In that case, "If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied" (1 Cor 15).

gibbonsrcool 5y ago
"I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11
- no-dr-onboard 5y ago
  Struggling to find the relevance in this one.
  - Eldt 5y ago
    Relevant in that you don't take stupid advice to heart
    - no-dr-onboard 5y ago
      What about it is stupid? Paul’s teaching here is that he’s not permitting women to be teachers in the church. That in God’s decreed order everyone has a role. Male and female have roles to fill and duties unique to their sex. This isn’t misandry or misogyny. Men and women complement each other. Male nor female, there is no difference in dignity and worth.
iab 5y ago
> We are not saying that Evolution can't exist, only that it is guided by His Noodly Appendage. - Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (attributed)
belltaco 5y ago
"They will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” Mark 16:18 ESV

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claytongulick 5y ago

It sort of depends on your definition of truth doesn't it? Most people accept that 2 + 2 = 4 is true. But this is only accurate within the math realm, which is a purely abstract concept. There's no such thing as "2" in the physical world. I view most religions in a similar way, they are a form of truth, that exist within their abstract realm. I read a fantasy novel once that had a character that believed in religion. All of them. At the same time. Sincerely. I always admired him.

jsjsbdkj 5y ago
There's "two" in the sense of "I have two loaves of bread, you give me two loaves of bread, now I have four". Abstract math arose as a way to describe physical things. That's a pretty concrete definition of truth.
yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
> There's no such thing as "2" in the physical world …wat. ಠ_ಠ At this point, society has quite a lot of science and engineering relying on the fact that numbers have objective meaning in the physical world.
- jiggawatts 5y ago
  You can’t physically represent or measure PI to more than about 20 decimal places no matter how you arrange matter. The curvature of spacetime itself will ruin any such attempt, not to mention eventually running into the limits of the observable universe itself. Similarly, according to QM, the number of fundamental particles in any system is not well-defined. They’re constantly appearing and disappearing. How do you count “people”? Easily and consistently? What about conjoined twins? Still doable? What if the twins are highly asymmetric with one twin just a bump on the head of the other? Just a few cells? Shared brain but seperate bodies? Still easy to “count”?
  - yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
    One functioning engine will get this aeroplane off the ground. Zero functioning engines will not. Yeah, pretty easy to count.