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You must understand that people have not liked SF for a long time -- at least five years if not further -- and feel "stuck" there for career reasons. The pande

You must understand that people have not liked SF for a long time -- at least five years if not further -- and feel "stuck" there for career reasons. The pandemic has made a lot of things (everything?) about the city much worse while opening up an avenue to leave. Thus, many people have taken it. As they're leaving behind a network, a likely fractured group of friends, and a never ending lockdown threat, it's created complicated feelings.

AustinDev 5y ago
I lived in alameda for 1 year in 2010. Hated the whole Bay Area and left as soon as I could. For me it was just personal preference.
- bingohbangoh 5y ago
  I visited LA for a week in 2018 and SF for two weeks in 2016. Never have I felt so unliked on a personal level (weird scowls in the Mission district, didn't get one match on Tinder lmao). I made it a point that I would never return to California for as long as I lived (unless you're willing to pay me a lot). For point of reference, I'm from NYC so this isn't a blue-state/red-state thing like it has become for a lot of people. There's something about the California vibe that does not mesh with me.
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CSSer 5y ago
> As they're leaving behind a network, a likely fractured group of friends I'm not sure how exactly to say this, but I imagine it's a lot less worse for us than it could be if we worked in many other professions. I get the impressive that relative to a lot of careers and industries, our network and even friend group in many cases is much more global by nature. Of course, you can't go throw a frisbee with your online friends, so they'll have to find new people to do those things with. I guess I'm just trying to say that if there's any demographic that could keep in touch if they want to, I get the impression that we're it.
SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
I don't understand that, because nobody I personally know has felt "stuck" in SF. I know many people who genuinely like the Bay Area, many people who hated it until they moved to a different tech hub after a their first lease was up, and a few people who didn't like cities in general but wanted to save up for a dream house back home. I could be in a social bubble somehow, I don't want to rule that out, but the phenomenon of having to live here despite hating it is something I've only ever encountered on social media.
- tayo42 5y ago
  I had a mostly positive experience in the bay area, but I felt stuck there. Until the pandemic happened it was hard to not work there. The companies were forward thinking, pay was higher, work was more interesting. There are some terrible jobs, companies and managers out there in the world

AustinDev 5y ago

I lived in alameda for 1 year in 2010. Hated the whole Bay Area and left as soon as I could. For me it was just personal preference.

bingohbangoh 5y ago
I visited LA for a week in 2018 and SF for two weeks in 2016. Never have I felt so unliked on a personal level (weird scowls in the Mission district, didn't get one match on Tinder lmao). I made it a point that I would never return to California for as long as I lived (unless you're willing to pay me a lot). For point of reference, I'm from NYC so this isn't a blue-state/red-state thing like it has become for a lot of people. There's something about the California vibe that does not mesh with me.

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CSSer 5y ago

> As they're leaving behind a network, a likely fractured group of friends I'm not sure how exactly to say this, but I imagine it's a lot less worse for us than it could be if we worked in many other professions. I get the impressive that relative to a lot of careers and industries, our network and even friend group in many cases is much more global by nature. Of course, you can't go throw a frisbee with your online friends, so they'll have to find new people to do those things with. I guess I'm just trying to say that if there's any demographic that could keep in touch if they want to, I get the impression that we're it.

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago

I don't understand that, because nobody I personally know has felt "stuck" in SF. I know many people who genuinely like the Bay Area, many people who hated it until they moved to a different tech hub after a their first lease was up, and a few people who didn't like cities in general but wanted to save up for a dream house back home. I could be in a social bubble somehow, I don't want to rule that out, but the phenomenon of having to live here despite hating it is something I've only ever encountered on social media.

tayo42 5y ago
I had a mostly positive experience in the bay area, but I felt stuck there. Until the pandemic happened it was hard to not work there. The companies were forward thinking, pay was higher, work was more interesting. There are some terrible jobs, companies and managers out there in the world