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OBS and Streamlabs Commit to Long-Term Collaboration
- dry_soup 5y agoNice that this issue, which started as a naming dispute IIRC, has been resolved amicably.
- Hamuko 5y agoNext stop: TikTok?
- brw 5y agoContext for those out of the loop: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29592103 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29592103 Although Streamlabs violated the trademark instead of the GPL, so somewhat different issues.
- lnyan 5y agoPrevious post: The OBS project has accused Streamlabs of copying their name and trademark https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29249766 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29249766
- andrewflnr 5y agoOof. It's good that they've changed their tune for now, but I wouldn't trust that company as far as I could throw it to not get up to more shenanigans in the future.
- i67vw3 5y ago“Collaboration” might be from tech side as I do not see any financial “collaboration” https://opencollective.com/obsproject https://opencollective.com/obsproject
- jarrell_mark 5y agoStreamlab's parent company Logitech is OBS's largest Organization donor and has been donating since May 2019
- bluskiesnclover 5y agoSource?
- msk-lywenn 5y agoThat very page in the parent post. 50000$ from Logitech. I would have expected more.
- ckdarby 5y agoPlus the development time they give internally to the open source project.
- Xylakant 5y agoStraight on the list of top contributors on the open collective page the GP linked. The source is in the post claiming that there’s no contribution.
- i67vw3 5y agoDid not know that Logitech bought Streamlabs. My comment therefore invalidates.
- chmod775 5y ago> since May 2019 Well. Kinda. They gave a "yearly" contribution of $50,000 once in 2019, then never again. Also that was before Logitech bought Streamlabs.
- Kudos 5y agoSeems like they were hedging their bets pre-acquisition of Streamlabs to me.
- keyle 5y agoI used both in the past. I wonder if anyone has a TL;DR of the story behind this, because I had never heard of any feud?
- leovander 5y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29249766 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29249766
- poopsmithe 5y agoStreamlabs was using the name, "OBS" (Streamlabs OBS aka SLOBS) in their fork of OBS and it led a bunch of people to believe that Streamlabs == OBS. On OBS github, contributors asked SLOBS to stop doing that, and Streamlabs declined. Streamer community outrage ensued via Twitter. Large exodus of SLOBS users to OBS. Streamlabs publicly apologized a few days later, and renamed Streamlabs OBS to Streamlabs Studio.
- wizardcm 5y agoThey renamed it to Streamlabs Desktop. Streamlabs Studio is a separate (newer) product.
- uyt 5y ago>renamed Streamlabs OBS to Streamlabs Studio Ah that is a good outcome. I pessimistically thought this post was implying that OBS decided to "collaborate" by relenting to huge wads of money and giving up their name. Which would've been a huge shame to open source software. Glad stuff worked out.
- saynay 5y agoThere was a few other things that tied in to the anger. It turned out Streamlabs had released a series of products that each exactly mirrored the functionality of other popular projects, including in one case stealing the entire product page (including user reviews) and replacing the product name with the Streamlabs version. Just a long series of exceedingly blatant copying and theft.
- noobermin 5y agoSomewhat tangential to this post but I'm happy that OBS is open source and it's established. It's up there with blender as quality open source tools that are rapidly reaching mainstream acceptance.
- Stevvo 5y agoOBS isn't "rapidly reaching mainstream acceptance" like Blender is. It has been the industry standard for 10 years already.
- majou 5y agoIt's even used in TikTok's streaming software, which is the highest usage platform on the internet. Unfortunately it's been used against GPL. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29592103 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29592103
- geerlingguy 5y agoAgreed. In terms of streaming on Twitch, YouTube, or elsewhere, and even for things like budget live production and screen recording, it has become more or less the standard by which other tools are measured.
- ilrwbwrkhv 5y agoWhat does YouTube use for their go live feature from the browser?
- ljm 5y agoOBS, Blender, Krita and Godot make for quite a powerhouse of a creative suite.
- prirai 5y agoInkscape.
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- iou 5y agoI only used OBS for the first time recently and was blown away by how stable and feature-rich I was. Truly a great OSS project.
- JohnHaugeland 5y agoNah, Streamlabs is stealing from other people too They're villains
- AustinDev 5y agoThey've copied source code from other small indie alert developers I know a guy who showed me proof they copied their code line from line pre-acquisition, bugs included...
- tortelliniGOSU 5y agosource? this isnt true.
- JohnHaugeland 5y ago"sOuRcE?" don't call people liars without checking, especially when they're saying "this group did more of the same." it's trivially easy to find examples. Here's lightstream getting super ripped off: https://twitter.com/Lightstream/status/1460709404609757185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1460709404609757185%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fventurebeat.com%2F2021%2F11%2F16%2Flightstream-and-elgato-fire-off-at-streamlabs-for-copying-their-homework%2F https://twitter.com/Lightstream/status/1460709404609757185?r... Here's it happening to Elgato too https://twitter.com/elgato/status/1460722403261046789 https://twitter.com/elgato/status/1460722403261046789 And warpworld https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qvzfu8/streamlabs_reached_out_to_us_back_in_february/ https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/qvzfu8/stre... Here's where they sign you up to $6/mo subscriptions without your permission or consent https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/pzgi4o/streamlabs_is_scamming_people_literally/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/pzgi4o/streamlabs_i... They're buried in BBB complaints about fraudulent transactions https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/marketing-software/streamlabs-1116-880600/complaints https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/marketing-so...
- xwowsersx 5y agoGreat news. Post is a bit light on details though. Anyone know what this might mean in practice?
- elfchief 5y agoI really hope Streamlabs paid a ton of money for this "cooperation", but from the wording, I doubt they did (since otherwise they'd be listed as a sponsor, etc, etc). Which... I'm not sure why the OBS team would do this. Streamlabs has been acting in bad faith for years. They've done very little work that's applicable to OBS at all, unless OBS wants to rewrite their front end using Chromium. What good does this do the OBS project? Streamlabs gets to look "good", and OBS gets... absolutely nothing?
- wizardcm 5y agoStreamlabs is owned by Logitech, and Logitech is now a Premier sponsor.