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We're going to look back on our treatment of children these past 2 years as one of the greatest blunders in the history of public health policy.
by disambiguation 5y ago
We're going to look back on our treatment of children these past 2 years as one of the greatest blunders in the history of public health policy.
- jacquesm 5y agoYou may want to read this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/24/omicron-children-hospitalizations-us/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/12/24/omicron-chi...
- daenz 5y agoWe sacrificed the mental health of the young for the physical health of the old.
- wiseowise 5y agoBut hey, grandma gets to live another year now. Who cares if the poor family never recovers after financial crisis.
- objektif 5y agoI am sure anyone can recover from financial troubles. It is possible.. The other one? Not so much...
- wiseowise 5y agoYep! Anyone can pull themselves by their bootstraps.
- mechanical_bear 5y agoYes.
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- pilsetnieks 5y agoNow inverse that statement and see where it takes you, and what it tells about you as a human being.
- tonguez 5y ago
- pilsetnieks 5y agoDownvoters: you want your elders (and not just them) to die and countless others to suffer long-term consequences of a disease not yet fully understood just to earn some money right now and keep the endless rat race going as it is; you make me sick.
- wiseowise 5y agoAnd you make me sick with your ignorant, shortsighted vision of the problem. Reducing economic crisis to "just to earn some money right now" is borderline idiotic. I'm waiting for a time when we'll start investigating economic and mental impact on different layers of society.
- nradov 5y agoYou present a false choice. No disease will ever be fully understood; there is always more to learn. We can't keep restrictions in place indefinitely while waiting for more information.
- Thiez 5y agoDon't we accept that our children will die and countless others will suffer long-term consequences every time we take a car instead of walking? As long as the suffering is sufficiently vague and indirect (such as with air pollution and global warming) people choose to sacrifice themselves and others all the time. Covid is new, but this dilemma is old as time. Whether you like it or not, participating in the endless rat race is how some people are able to (sometimes barely) afford to feed their children, or pay for medical treatment. Do poor people make you sick? How about those who would choose quality of life over a little life expectancy? Some elders would rather see and hug their (grand-)children more often than live another two years in social isolation. Do you find such elders disgusting as well?
- mechanical_bear 5y agoI would suffer financially greatly if it brought back my grandmother, she passed from COVID December of last year. I wish she had another year. She would have had a chance to meet her great grandson. But sure, complain about the numbers in your bank account some more. Edit after being downvoted: Sure, downvote me and don’t respond over my dead grandmother, coward.
- gjs278 5y ago
- pavel_lishin 5y agoThat sounds like a good reason to re-think ouf current medical and insurance industry, not a good reason to throw grandma to the wolves. Otherwise, the inevitable end of this logic is folks committing plausibly deniable suicide to get an insurance payout.
- pacerwpg 5y agoPandemics aren't easy
- ceejayoz 5y agoMy kids' mental health would be pretty heavily impacted by the death of their grandparents. A pretty large number of kids are raised by "the old", too. https://www.prb.org/resources/more-u-s-children-raised-by-grandparents/ https://www.prb.org/resources/more-u-s-children-raised-by-gr...
- paulryanrogers 5y agoLet's not forget that 40% of adults in the US are obese and some immuno-compromised. As a parent who falls into one of those groups I hope we can find a path forward that balances personal liberty and our health.
- daenz 5y agoAnd here's the impact of how we've treated children during the pandemic: >The pandemic then brought on physical isolation, ongoing uncertainty, fear and grief. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention researchers quantified that toll in several reports. They found between March and October 2020, emergency department visits for mental health emergencies rose by 24% for children ages 5-11 years and 31% for children ages 12-17 years. In addition, emergency department visits for suspected suicide attempts increased nearly 51% among girls ages 12-17 years in early 2021 compared to the same period in 2019.[0] >A total of 83 articles (80 studies) met inclusion criteria. Of these, 63 studies reported on the impact of social isolation and loneliness on the mental health of previously healthy children and adolescents (n = 51,576; mean age 15.3 years). In all, 61 studies were observational, 18 were longitudinal, and 43 were cross-sectional studies assessing self-reported loneliness in healthy children and adolescents.[1] >Children and adolescents are probably more likely to experience high rates of depression and most likely anxiety during and after enforced isolation ends. This may increase as enforced isolation continues. Clinical services should offer preventive support and early intervention where possible and be prepared for an increase in mental health problems.[1] Experts think this is just the tip of the iceberg for issues that will affect us for decades. 0. https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/17718/AAP-AACAP-CHA-declare-national-emergency-in https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/17718/AAP-AACAP-CH... 1. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0890856720303373 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S089085672...
- beefman 5y agoExtraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Where's the evidence that any public health measure adversely affecting children worked any benefit to the old?
- yalogin 5y agoCan you clarify more?
- jlarocco 5y agoI'm not saying we're doing well, but the bar for "greatest blunder in the history of public health policy" is pretty low, unfortunately: https://www.ibtimes.com/scarred-life-canadas-uprooted-indigenous-children-3358673 https://www.ibtimes.com/scarred-life-canadas-uprooted-indige...
- dijonman2 5y ago
- janeroe 5y ago> one of the greatest blunders in the history of public health policy Is it a blunder when malice is involved?
- NaturalPhallacy 5y agoGreed and lust for power. Doesn't need to be malice.
- NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
- randomopining 5y agoI always said they should've just let all kids, college kids, etc just get it super quick. Isolate the colleges, let them party etc. Massive herd immunity after 4-6 weeks and then that huge part of society is fine.
- malchow 5y agoI couldn't agree more. Children trying to eat lunch outside in the cold in NYC. Children in California barred from classrooms for a year+, and soon children forced to receive one or more medicines they simply do not need.