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Something moving with high frequency in the peripheral vision would be mighty distracting. I did not know Teslas allow you to browse Web while driving, this als

Something moving with high frequency in the peripheral vision would be mighty distracting. I did not know Teslas allow you to browse Web while driving, this also looks very distracting, the other things you listed - not much.

ajross 5y ago
It was Solitaire, FWIW, not Sonic the Hedgehog. The list of Passenger Play games was curated. Which is another fact that would seem to be reasonable to have included in the reporting, but was suspiciously absent.
- pandaman 5y ago
  https://youtu.be/jKzHvIXT3Bc?t=81 https://youtu.be/jKzHvIXT3Bc?t=81 looks a bit more like Sonic the Hedgehog than Solitire to me tbqh. Curation does not seem to be relevant. Why do I care if the driver that runs the red light is playing/being distracted by a game that have been curated, is he going to cause less damage because of this somehow?
  - ajross 5y ago
    Arrgh! That's not the feature! That story showed shots of the normal games in the car that work when it's parked! That car wasn't moving! You can't play those games (Cupheads seems to ahve been shown) when it is moving! They didn't show you the games you could actually play, they showed you what they thought would make you upset. And it did. Seriously, the whole media ecosystem in this space is one intentional deception after another. Do you really not see that?
    - pandaman 5y ago
      Even if it's just the Solitaire, as you claim, it's still something that should not be playing in the car if it's anything like Windows game with the same name, where big, high contrast cards are moving around. Nor should be the web browser accessible. There is no justification for having these stupid features in the car other than marketing. Tesla should stick to the "Fart mode" and other such gimmicks, which do not endanger other people on the road and give enough for the fans to talk about the "superior technologies".
      - Dylan16807 5y ago
        > where big, high contrast cards are moving around I feel like this is really a reach. The passenger is using their hands to move around those little cards, and I don't think that sounds any more distracting than half the things they could be doing like gesturing while talking or fidgeting slightly. Sonic would be bad, solitaire on a touch screen isn't bad unless the driver tries to play.
        pandaman 5y ago
        The passenger is supposed to play these games by touching the only screen in the car, the one that driver also uses for speed and navigation indications? Indeed, the size of the cards does not matter in this case, it's already distracting. I thought they have some gamepads for these games.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        > speed Depends on the model. Though that's a stupid design even without any games. > navigation indications Not a critical feature, and can be done without a screen. Also, huh, that's constant movement you'd be getting rid of isn't it.
        pandaman 5y ago
        Not sure what you meant by "Also, huh, that's constant movement you'd be getting rid of isn't it." this does not quite parse in the context or by itself. I suppose it's somehow related to navigation? Navigation is quite useful in other cars and it does not create constant high frequency motion in the cars I've seen.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        The average navigation display moves more than the average game of solitaire. High-movement games are in a different category entirely, of course, but apparently those only work stopped.

ajross 5y ago

It was Solitaire, FWIW, not Sonic the Hedgehog. The list of Passenger Play games was curated. Which is another fact that would seem to be reasonable to have included in the reporting, but was suspiciously absent.

pandaman 5y ago
https://youtu.be/jKzHvIXT3Bc?t=81 https://youtu.be/jKzHvIXT3Bc?t=81 looks a bit more like Sonic the Hedgehog than Solitire to me tbqh. Curation does not seem to be relevant. Why do I care if the driver that runs the red light is playing/being distracted by a game that have been curated, is he going to cause less damage because of this somehow?
- ajross 5y ago
  Arrgh! That's not the feature! That story showed shots of the normal games in the car that work when it's parked! That car wasn't moving! You can't play those games (Cupheads seems to ahve been shown) when it is moving! They didn't show you the games you could actually play, they showed you what they thought would make you upset. And it did. Seriously, the whole media ecosystem in this space is one intentional deception after another. Do you really not see that?
  - pandaman 5y ago
    Even if it's just the Solitaire, as you claim, it's still something that should not be playing in the car if it's anything like Windows game with the same name, where big, high contrast cards are moving around. Nor should be the web browser accessible. There is no justification for having these stupid features in the car other than marketing. Tesla should stick to the "Fart mode" and other such gimmicks, which do not endanger other people on the road and give enough for the fans to talk about the "superior technologies".
    - Dylan16807 5y ago
      > where big, high contrast cards are moving around I feel like this is really a reach. The passenger is using their hands to move around those little cards, and I don't think that sounds any more distracting than half the things they could be doing like gesturing while talking or fidgeting slightly. Sonic would be bad, solitaire on a touch screen isn't bad unless the driver tries to play.
      - pandaman 5y ago
        The passenger is supposed to play these games by touching the only screen in the car, the one that driver also uses for speed and navigation indications? Indeed, the size of the cards does not matter in this case, it's already distracting. I thought they have some gamepads for these games.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        > speed Depends on the model. Though that's a stupid design even without any games. > navigation indications Not a critical feature, and can be done without a screen. Also, huh, that's constant movement you'd be getting rid of isn't it.
        pandaman 5y ago
        Not sure what you meant by "Also, huh, that's constant movement you'd be getting rid of isn't it." this does not quite parse in the context or by itself. I suppose it's somehow related to navigation? Navigation is quite useful in other cars and it does not create constant high frequency motion in the cars I've seen.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        The average navigation display moves more than the average game of solitaire. High-movement games are in a different category entirely, of course, but apparently those only work stopped.