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Linux version: - some times the left arrow to move the cursor doesn't work - some times images are displayed and others not - can't have more than 4 people o

Linux version: - some times the left arrow to move the cursor doesn't work - some times images are displayed and others not - can't have more than 4 people on screen in a video call - the scroll is completely broken - can't get out of the immersive mode without closing the process (the back arrow doesn't work) And the list goes on and on...

rleigh 5y ago
Not Linux-specific! The Windows version suffers from at least 1, 2 and 4 in my experience.
rapsey 5y ago
As a cross platform desktop app developer I hate desktop linux. So many reinventions of the wheel that you have to support. Graphics, sound, video capture, GUI is all a mess.
- Karsteski 5y ago
  Can you elaborate more? What would you prefer instead, with regards to developing for Linux?
  - rapsey 5y ago
    There is X and now wayland. If you are doing something beyond basic you can quickly fall into needing two different implementations for GUI things. There is jack, pulse, alsa and now pipewire for sound. On the system you can have multiple sound devices some available fully working only through pipewire, others fully working only through pulse. If you want your app to integrate into your desktop nicely (basic thing like using tray icons) you can have completely different behaviors on different distros because there is so much variability. Pipewire is now taking over a lot of things regarding audio/video. With fedora already fully on it. Great but the documentation is in a miserable state. Very few examples. Some distros while have pipewire running, using it for audio will just not work.
    - Karsteski 5y ago
      Understandable. It would be nice if a lot of the Linux DE were consolidated, at least for a "target" for developers. I'm genuinely hoping SteamOS 3 helps with this. Of course, this consolidation will come with issues as well, as we've seen with the dominance of the Chromium engine for browsers...
Jedd 5y ago
My biggest issues are that a) it starts up in the foreground (none of my other autostart apps do this) so it can happily intercept keypresses you're doing in other apps -- and b) it does not respect standard system titlebar / borders, which puts it as the only app in my KDE environment that works in a non-standard manner. A/V issues, navigation, inability to find an existing conversation / conference (happening now on another computer) on a GNU/Linux machine, etc are almost secondary.
- lokedhs 5y ago
  > it does not respect standard system titlebar / borders, which puts it as the only app in my KDE environment that works in a non-standard manner. This also makes it impossible to resize the window. Well, sometimes. There are times when it works, and I have no idea what makes it work. Thankfully, I usually use Qubes OS which doesn't let programs do these user-hostile things.
  - MayeulC 5y ago
    > This also makes it impossible to resize the window. As a workaround, I'm pretty sure that KDE supports Alt (or meta) + right click for resizing.
    - Jedd 5y ago
      KDE lets you resize compliant windows in this way, but Microsoft Teams for GNU/Linux is not compliant -- and consequently this does not work.
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  You can outright prohibit applications from starting on the foreground on KDE. I wouldn't even try running Teams on Linux, as I'm sure it's an endless source of frustration (much more intense than on Windows or on the browser). But the one nice thing of Linux is that you can force apps to behave.
- foepys 5y ago
  > My biggest issues are that a) it starts up in the foreground (none of my other autostart apps do this) so it can happily intercept keypresses you're doing in other apps I needed to change my work password twice already because I accidentally sent it to somebody when Teams suddenly popped up and took focus away from my VPN client and I hit enter.
lokedhs 5y ago
> can't have more than 4 people on screen in a video call You can if you use it in Chrome. I thought Teams was an Electron application, which makes this even more strange.
MegaDeKay 5y ago
"some times the left arrow to move the cursor doesn't work". Same bug in Windows. Select the button with the three dots "...", and hit escape when the menu pops up. Arrow key will start working again.
IggleSniggle 5y ago
I have all of these issues as well on macOS. The left-arrow is typically the most frustrating one to me.
isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
It somehow tries to change my camera settings as well, fucking them up in the process.

rleigh 5y ago

Not Linux-specific! The Windows version suffers from at least 1, 2 and 4 in my experience.

rapsey 5y ago

As a cross platform desktop app developer I hate desktop linux. So many reinventions of the wheel that you have to support. Graphics, sound, video capture, GUI is all a mess.

Karsteski 5y ago
Can you elaborate more? What would you prefer instead, with regards to developing for Linux?
- rapsey 5y ago
  There is X and now wayland. If you are doing something beyond basic you can quickly fall into needing two different implementations for GUI things. There is jack, pulse, alsa and now pipewire for sound. On the system you can have multiple sound devices some available fully working only through pipewire, others fully working only through pulse. If you want your app to integrate into your desktop nicely (basic thing like using tray icons) you can have completely different behaviors on different distros because there is so much variability. Pipewire is now taking over a lot of things regarding audio/video. With fedora already fully on it. Great but the documentation is in a miserable state. Very few examples. Some distros while have pipewire running, using it for audio will just not work.
  - Karsteski 5y ago
    Understandable. It would be nice if a lot of the Linux DE were consolidated, at least for a "target" for developers. I'm genuinely hoping SteamOS 3 helps with this. Of course, this consolidation will come with issues as well, as we've seen with the dominance of the Chromium engine for browsers...

Jedd 5y ago

My biggest issues are that a) it starts up in the foreground (none of my other autostart apps do this) so it can happily intercept keypresses you're doing in other apps -- and b) it does not respect standard system titlebar / borders, which puts it as the only app in my KDE environment that works in a non-standard manner. A/V issues, navigation, inability to find an existing conversation / conference (happening now on another computer) on a GNU/Linux machine, etc are almost secondary.

lokedhs 5y ago
> it does not respect standard system titlebar / borders, which puts it as the only app in my KDE environment that works in a non-standard manner. This also makes it impossible to resize the window. Well, sometimes. There are times when it works, and I have no idea what makes it work. Thankfully, I usually use Qubes OS which doesn't let programs do these user-hostile things.
- MayeulC 5y ago
  > This also makes it impossible to resize the window. As a workaround, I'm pretty sure that KDE supports Alt (or meta) + right click for resizing.
  - Jedd 5y ago
    KDE lets you resize compliant windows in this way, but Microsoft Teams for GNU/Linux is not compliant -- and consequently this does not work.
marcosdumay 5y ago
You can outright prohibit applications from starting on the foreground on KDE. I wouldn't even try running Teams on Linux, as I'm sure it's an endless source of frustration (much more intense than on Windows or on the browser). But the one nice thing of Linux is that you can force apps to behave.
foepys 5y ago
> My biggest issues are that a) it starts up in the foreground (none of my other autostart apps do this) so it can happily intercept keypresses you're doing in other apps I needed to change my work password twice already because I accidentally sent it to somebody when Teams suddenly popped up and took focus away from my VPN client and I hit enter.

lokedhs 5y ago

> can't have more than 4 people on screen in a video call You can if you use it in Chrome. I thought Teams was an Electron application, which makes this even more strange.

MegaDeKay 5y ago

"some times the left arrow to move the cursor doesn't work". Same bug in Windows. Select the button with the three dots "...", and hit escape when the menu pops up. Arrow key will start working again.

IggleSniggle 5y ago

I have all of these issues as well on macOS. The left-arrow is typically the most frustrating one to me.

isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago

It somehow tries to change my camera settings as well, fucking them up in the process.