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I've noticed often that when I tried to speak up, people didn't cared about what I was to say. They just made fun out of me pointing errors. Once you make a gr

I've noticed often that when I tried to speak up, people didn't cared about what I was to say. They just made fun out of me pointing errors. Once you make a grammatical error, people feel like they're free to ignore the rest.

WalterBright 5y ago
tjpnz 5y ago
Those people are assholes. Not that it matters a terrible lot but where did this happen?
- Claude_Shannon 5y ago
  Thankfully it had never happened here. In general, on other forums, on FB, etc. It doesn't happen that often. But still, it happens way often compared to what I'd have imagined.
Kelamir 5y ago
Some years ago I've been learning Japanese for about two years. I decided it's time I try speaking with natives, so I joined a Japanese Discord server and hopped in a conversation. Ended up being laughed at, made fun of, and stopped learning Japanese ever since.
- 5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
  Discord grew out of gaming communities which are notorious for their extreme toxicity, what else could you expect?
  - Kelamir 5y ago
    I don't know. It was fairly shocking and I couldn't think clearly. I wish I didn't abandon Japanese though.
  - mhh__ 5y ago
    Discord has come a very very very long way since then. Human condition, not so much.
- xdfgh1112 5y ago
  I'm sorry this happened to you. Unfortunately in Japanese culture it can considered acceptable (and even friendly) to laugh at people in this way. If you hang out with people who understand the pain of language learning (English learners, people with an interest in foreign culture) it's less likely to happen and you'll get empathy instead. I hope it doesn't discourage you because learning Japanese (or any language) pays off for a lifetime. There is still time to start again.
- distantaidenn 5y ago
  Sucks you had that experience, but you have to consider the environment. The internet can be a toxic place, no matter the language. Anyway, don't let some bad feedback stop you from learning -- use it as inspiration! For every asshole that mocks you, there are 10 more that are willing to help. Hell, long time ago, when my Japanese was admittedly still pretty bad, I ran into this drunk Japanese dude in some bar with my friend. I spoke in Japanese, and he laughed in my face saying, and I quote exactly, "your Japanese is shit!" I didn't want to counter that his English was just as bad, I just moved on, and kept studying. There are two types of people in the world: those that lift you up, and those that bring you down -- seek out the former.
surfingdino 5y ago
The delivery of your message matters as much as the contents of it. It's unfortunate, but how you speak matters a lot. I know it's hard. It has taken me years to become comfortable speaking and joking in English. I have now started similar journey with French and Italian.

WalterBright 5y ago

tjpnz 5y ago

Those people are assholes. Not that it matters a terrible lot but where did this happen?

Claude_Shannon 5y ago
Thankfully it had never happened here. In general, on other forums, on FB, etc. It doesn't happen that often. But still, it happens way often compared to what I'd have imagined.

Kelamir 5y ago

Some years ago I've been learning Japanese for about two years. I decided it's time I try speaking with natives, so I joined a Japanese Discord server and hopped in a conversation. Ended up being laughed at, made fun of, and stopped learning Japanese ever since.

5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
Discord grew out of gaming communities which are notorious for their extreme toxicity, what else could you expect?
- Kelamir 5y ago
  I don't know. It was fairly shocking and I couldn't think clearly. I wish I didn't abandon Japanese though.
- mhh__ 5y ago
  Discord has come a very very very long way since then. Human condition, not so much.
xdfgh1112 5y ago
I'm sorry this happened to you. Unfortunately in Japanese culture it can considered acceptable (and even friendly) to laugh at people in this way. If you hang out with people who understand the pain of language learning (English learners, people with an interest in foreign culture) it's less likely to happen and you'll get empathy instead. I hope it doesn't discourage you because learning Japanese (or any language) pays off for a lifetime. There is still time to start again.
distantaidenn 5y ago
Sucks you had that experience, but you have to consider the environment. The internet can be a toxic place, no matter the language. Anyway, don't let some bad feedback stop you from learning -- use it as inspiration! For every asshole that mocks you, there are 10 more that are willing to help. Hell, long time ago, when my Japanese was admittedly still pretty bad, I ran into this drunk Japanese dude in some bar with my friend. I spoke in Japanese, and he laughed in my face saying, and I quote exactly, "your Japanese is shit!" I didn't want to counter that his English was just as bad, I just moved on, and kept studying. There are two types of people in the world: those that lift you up, and those that bring you down -- seek out the former.

surfingdino 5y ago

The delivery of your message matters as much as the contents of it. It's unfortunate, but how you speak matters a lot. I know it's hard. It has taken me years to become comfortable speaking and joking in English. I have now started similar journey with French and Italian.