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I wouldn't want a teenager driving on ice and snow covered roads in the dark on roads with no street lights.
by confidantlake 5y ago
I wouldn't want a teenager driving on ice and snow covered roads in the dark on roads with no street lights.
- sulam 5y agoThat’s like saying you wouldn’t want a teenager driving in the city vs the suburb, or a freeway vs regular road. These are normal conditions in Sweden.
- confidantlake 5y agoThe grandparent was making out the roads to be incredibly dangerous, that you couldn't possibly ride a bike on them. (Dark, ice covered, no street lamps!). If they are really so dangerous that you can't ride a bike on them then they are too dangerous for a teenager to be driving on.
- waspight 5y agoThere is a large difference between using a bike on icy roads covered in snow and using a car on the same road.
- fogihujy 5y agoSo, lock the kids up during winter? Where I live, the roads are barely walkable during winter. Public transport is 8km away. Cars with proper winter tires is far easier to keep steady, than a bike. Especially if windy. Most teens out here drive tractors to get around. Personally, I'd prefer if Finland went the Swedish route here - an old Volvo with limited speed is still less dangerous than a large tractor.
- european321 5y agoHaha, ever heard of winter tires? Or winter driving instruction courses? Which btw are mandatory at least in Finland
- confidantlake 5y agoEver heard of fat tires? Snow doesn't mean you can't bike.
- Mezzie 5y agoThis is false. I grew up in rural Michigan, so similar weather and density to the Nordic countries. There are PLENTY of times when driving is perfectly safe and I wouldn't bike. And I prefer walking/biking to driving most of the time.
- reaperducer 5y agoI wouldn't want a teenager driving on ice and snow covered roads in the dark on roads with no street lights. So, pretty much outside city limits in every state in America that gets snow?
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- confidantlake 5y agoMost roads are in cleared of snow and ice and are usually well lit. If the street is not well lit and it is covered in ice then yes a teenager should not be driving on it.
- HeyLaughingBoy 5y agoBy "outside city limits" I believe OP was being general, not specifically talking about large cities. I live in a rural area. I can think of exactly four street lights that are within a 10-mile radius of my home, and I'm not that far outside town. So yeah, it's pretty dark at night. Yes, roads around here are mostly cleared of snow and ice, but they're still dirt/gravel roads and the snow is usually pushed off to the shoulders where a bicycle would be riding, and even then, I'm sure you can understand that dirt absorbs water and will then refreeze. It's not a particularly safe place to be riding a bike.
- NordSteve 5y agoI live in suburban Minneapolis. We go weeks with ice covered neighborhood streets, and they are lit only at intersections. Teens learn to drive safely in this environment.
- confidantlake 5y agoTeens have a higher fatality rate than almost every other driving cohort except 80+ and winter driving conditions are more dangerous than non winter conditions. Teens do not drive safely compared to other age groups in this environment or any other environment.