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Except it hasn't been shown yet to be effective against Covid-19 yet. So why would they prescribe it? The irony is you're saying the doctor got it from CNN when

Except it hasn't been shown yet to be effective against Covid-19 yet. So why would they prescribe it? The irony is you're saying the doctor got it from CNN when antivaxxers have been screaming about ivermectin for months, without any proof it's effective. >This incessant political polarization of science has to stop. Lol. In comments to a post about a doctor venting about being assaulted for not giving into conspiracy theorists demands re: treatment, and people say he's making it "political". Anyone can doubt the veracity all they want, there's 1000 more stories just like this.

timr 5y ago
> Except it hasn't been shown yet to be effective against Covid-19 yet. So why would they prescribe it? The irony is you're saying the doctor got it from CNN when antivaxxers have been screaming about ivermectin for months, without any proof it's effective. Didn't I write that I don't believe it's effective? I'm not sure who you think you're arguing with, here. The point is, this person made a specific claim -- that the "effective dose" would be so high as to be fatal. That claim is so laughable and baseless in fact that it calls into question the credibility of the entire story. No informed doctor would say such a thing. We simply don't know what the "effective dose" is (if any), but we know what other people are recommending as effective doses, and these are not toxic. When "doctors" go on QAnon forums on reddit, and post things that sound like re-mixes of CNN headlines while making egregious mistakes of medicine, at the very least it should make you question their objectivity, if not the credibility of the claim.
- momdad420 5y ago
  - dang 5y ago
    We've banned this account for repeatedly and egregiously breaking the site guidelines. Not what this site is for! If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
  - deschutes 5y ago
    It's pretty easy to understand. The idea is that the recommended doses are demonstrably not lethal. They may or may not be effective. The effective dose (if any) may or may not be lethal. I don't know enough to evaluate any of the claims, I only wish to note the logic is pretty easy to follow. I suspect you already understood all of this and chose to misunderstand to ... "win" the argument?
    - dang 5y ago
      Please edit swipes out of your posts here. Your comment would be fine without that last bit. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - momdad420 5y ago
      Except what you wrote isn't what the parent comment wrote. If we know what doses other people are prescribing as "effective", then we do know the effective dose. Their immediate sentence before said we don't know the effective dose. And you accuse me of being obtuse. This is aside from the point that there's an effective (and not lethal dose) of Ivermectin for treating parasites. It does not follow that that same dosage would be effective for covid. We have no idea what that effective dose might be for covid, if any. It could be lethal, it could not be. That's the entire point.
crawfordcomeaux 5y ago
The reason to prescribe it is to add another test subject to the study. The fact that there isn't a protocol for people to organize a public study of their own bodies suggests a patriarchal approach to medicine science. People learn faster when they get to choose their own options.
- momdad420 5y ago

timr 5y ago

> Except it hasn't been shown yet to be effective against Covid-19 yet. So why would they prescribe it? The irony is you're saying the doctor got it from CNN when antivaxxers have been screaming about ivermectin for months, without any proof it's effective. Didn't I write that I don't believe it's effective? I'm not sure who you think you're arguing with, here. The point is, this person made a specific claim -- that the "effective dose" would be so high as to be fatal. That claim is so laughable and baseless in fact that it calls into question the credibility of the entire story. No informed doctor would say such a thing. We simply don't know what the "effective dose" is (if any), but we know what other people are recommending as effective doses, and these are not toxic. When "doctors" go on QAnon forums on reddit, and post things that sound like re-mixes of CNN headlines while making egregious mistakes of medicine, at the very least it should make you question their objectivity, if not the credibility of the claim.

momdad420 5y ago
- dang 5y ago
  We've banned this account for repeatedly and egregiously breaking the site guidelines. Not what this site is for! If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- deschutes 5y ago
  It's pretty easy to understand. The idea is that the recommended doses are demonstrably not lethal. They may or may not be effective. The effective dose (if any) may or may not be lethal. I don't know enough to evaluate any of the claims, I only wish to note the logic is pretty easy to follow. I suspect you already understood all of this and chose to misunderstand to ... "win" the argument?
  - dang 5y ago
    Please edit swipes out of your posts here. Your comment would be fine without that last bit. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - momdad420 5y ago
    Except what you wrote isn't what the parent comment wrote. If we know what doses other people are prescribing as "effective", then we do know the effective dose. Their immediate sentence before said we don't know the effective dose. And you accuse me of being obtuse. This is aside from the point that there's an effective (and not lethal dose) of Ivermectin for treating parasites. It does not follow that that same dosage would be effective for covid. We have no idea what that effective dose might be for covid, if any. It could be lethal, it could not be. That's the entire point.

crawfordcomeaux 5y ago

The reason to prescribe it is to add another test subject to the study. The fact that there isn't a protocol for people to organize a public study of their own bodies suggests a patriarchal approach to medicine science. People learn faster when they get to choose their own options.

momdad420 5y ago