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Agree, as a young, healthy person with access to top level care (Canada) I'm not really worried about death or long hospitalization, I'm worried about long COVI

by giarc 5y ago

Agree, as a young, healthy person with access to top level care (Canada) I'm not really worried about death or long hospitalization, I'm worried about long COVID. I've heard many stories of people losing taste/smell for a long time and when it does come back their senses are all messed up and what used to taste great now tastes terrible. Also stories of people that were active prior and can no longer do any exercise. I have a coworker who is a bit older, but has been off work for a few months with long COVID symptoms. That's all my real concern.

swader999 5y ago
The FLCCC protocol for long covid has had a lot of good results. I fixed my three and a half month bout in the spring with it. One dose of ivermectin and I felt better in a few hours and cured all the symptoms in five days with four more doses. The only remaining symptom of chest inflammation resolved with prednisone.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  It could easily be that you had an undiagnosed case of worms. That was the outcome of a bit of research about those cases where Ivermectin seemed to have a positive effect on curing COVID-19.
  - swader999 5y ago
    No. Too many non worm symptoms that were exactly like covid symptoms.
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      My understanding was that a hypotheiss of why ivermectin seems more likely to be effective at treating COVID in studies conducted in places with lots of parasitic infections is that some of those undiagnosed parasitic infections exacerbate COVID symptoms. So, having symptoms associated with COVID and not particular to parasitic infection wouldn't rule out that hypothesis, but instead be consistent with it.
      - swader999 5y ago
        Interesting. I've heard there's a few side effects when clearing parasites, more nausea for instance. Brain fog, shortness of breath, heart palpitations, extreme high blood pressure, clotting issues, extreme fatigue, chest congestion, sore throat, sense of smell was haywire. All this got better than I had felt in the three months of suffering within a few hours of the first dose. Then better after each additional daily dose. After five days I felt well again. Only had chest/lung inflammation left to deal with. Prednisone fixed that. I don't live in an area where parasites and worms are at all common.
ethbr0 5y ago
I might get a ton of flak for this, but I discount the frequency of long Covid by a substantial amount. Not the severity, mind you, but the amount of people it's actually physiologically affecting. If you can increase UFO sightings by telling everyone that UFOs exist and talking about UFOs... well, then what do you get from a global trauma with high and continuous uncertainty, that requires uncommon expertise to parse, on the news 24/7?
- nradov 5y ago
  "Long COVID symptoms may have causes other than SARS-CoV-2" https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/11/long-covid-symptoms-may-have-causes-other-sars-cov-2 https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/11/long-cov...
- prohobo 5y ago
  I have seen no real research into it. No real proof that it's a major issue. But (guess who) the mainstream media has been playing it up for a while, and it's always used as the final indisputable argument by people who support the lockdowns.
- giarc 5y ago
  This study, with some limitations (mainly data collected from EMRs), suggests 36% of those with COVID experience one or more 'long COVID' symptom between 3 and 6 months following infection. https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003773 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...
Forlien 5y ago
Per https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/long-covid-much-more-than-you-wanted https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/long-covid-much-more-t..., it sounds like long term physical and mental impacts can stay with people who get hospitalized by the flu. Why are you more worried about long COVID than persistent effects of diseases that have been around longer like the flu?
- retrac 5y ago
  Perhaps it has about 10x the odds of causing severe post-viral syndrome than flu does, just as it has about 10x the mortality? We don't know much yet.
somedude895 5y ago
> when it does come back their senses are all messed up and what used to taste great now tastes terrible. From what I've read, even that goes back to normal after a while. From my own experience, that's exactly what happened. I couldn't smell or taste anything for around 3 weeks, then coffee tasted like rotten bananas for around two months and ultimately everything went back to normal. I guess I got lucky on the other symptoms like tiredness and being short of breath, because I never had those to begin with.

by giarc 5y ago

swader999 5y ago

The FLCCC protocol for long covid has had a lot of good results. I fixed my three and a half month bout in the spring with it. One dose of ivermectin and I felt better in a few hours and cured all the symptoms in five days with four more doses. The only remaining symptom of chest inflammation resolved with prednisone.

jacquesm 5y ago
It could easily be that you had an undiagnosed case of worms. That was the outcome of a bit of research about those cases where Ivermectin seemed to have a positive effect on curing COVID-19.
- swader999 5y ago
  No. Too many non worm symptoms that were exactly like covid symptoms.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    My understanding was that a hypotheiss of why ivermectin seems more likely to be effective at treating COVID in studies conducted in places with lots of parasitic infections is that some of those undiagnosed parasitic infections exacerbate COVID symptoms. So, having symptoms associated with COVID and not particular to parasitic infection wouldn't rule out that hypothesis, but instead be consistent with it.
    - swader999 5y ago
      Interesting. I've heard there's a few side effects when clearing parasites, more nausea for instance. Brain fog, shortness of breath, heart palpitations, extreme high blood pressure, clotting issues, extreme fatigue, chest congestion, sore throat, sense of smell was haywire. All this got better than I had felt in the three months of suffering within a few hours of the first dose. Then better after each additional daily dose. After five days I felt well again. Only had chest/lung inflammation left to deal with. Prednisone fixed that. I don't live in an area where parasites and worms are at all common.

ethbr0 5y ago

I might get a ton of flak for this, but I discount the frequency of long Covid by a substantial amount. Not the severity, mind you, but the amount of people it's actually physiologically affecting. If you can increase UFO sightings by telling everyone that UFOs exist and talking about UFOs... well, then what do you get from a global trauma with high and continuous uncertainty, that requires uncommon expertise to parse, on the news 24/7?

nradov 5y ago
"Long COVID symptoms may have causes other than SARS-CoV-2" https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/11/long-covid-symptoms-may-have-causes-other-sars-cov-2 https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/11/long-cov...
prohobo 5y ago
I have seen no real research into it. No real proof that it's a major issue. But (guess who) the mainstream media has been playing it up for a while, and it's always used as the final indisputable argument by people who support the lockdowns.
giarc 5y ago
This study, with some limitations (mainly data collected from EMRs), suggests 36% of those with COVID experience one or more 'long COVID' symptom between 3 and 6 months following infection. https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003773 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...

Forlien 5y ago

Per https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/long-covid-much-more-than-you-wanted https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/long-covid-much-more-t..., it sounds like long term physical and mental impacts can stay with people who get hospitalized by the flu. Why are you more worried about long COVID than persistent effects of diseases that have been around longer like the flu?

retrac 5y ago
Perhaps it has about 10x the odds of causing severe post-viral syndrome than flu does, just as it has about 10x the mortality? We don't know much yet.

somedude895 5y ago

> when it does come back their senses are all messed up and what used to taste great now tastes terrible. From what I've read, even that goes back to normal after a while. From my own experience, that's exactly what happened. I couldn't smell or taste anything for around 3 weeks, then coffee tasted like rotten bananas for around two months and ultimately everything went back to normal. I guess I got lucky on the other symptoms like tiredness and being short of breath, because I never had those to begin with.