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How about people should be able to murder as much as they want? Just because someone was a victim in the past or currently does not give them the right to victi

by dmz73 5y ago

How about people should be able to murder as much as they want? Just because someone was a victim in the past or currently does not give them the right to victimize other people. There are social and economical injustices in America but destroying the physical businesses will not solve that, it will make it worse. Do you really think that the only way to resolve all these issues is to burn the whole place to the ground just so everyone can be equally worse off? Because that will not work either, there will still be people who will use that to their advantage so instead of having some middle class the country will end up with the de-facto feudal system of few rich lords with private armies and peasants fighting over leftover crumbs.

beepbooptheory 5y ago
I just feel like once we begin talking about these things at the scale of trends or patterns, or as a crisis in the social order, what have you, we kinda naturally tend to treat them as symptoms. Its not this crime or that crime, its just social phenomenon. Like, an aberration in statistics or data for a doctor isn't the disease itself, because its just data, but a clue or symbol into a larger thing going on. (I'm not a physician). Now if you want to grant that view for a second, I think its rational, what are we left with to say? Is it a symptom of the forces of evil that exist, and must be kept at bay? I dont like that view! At some level, I just don't understand precisely where this anger is directed at, its always like people have someone in mind.. I think I'm radical only in the idea that if society is going to manifest symptoms, so be it. We are all doing what we can. I maybe know some ideas of how to fix some things, but that doesn't even need to be the point! I get that like everyone is angry at people who steal, I have been a victim of great theft in my life.. But I don't think its ultimately the evil of that person I am angry at, its the world where he is compelled to or not. And if he was just some low life scoundrel in an otherwise utopian society? Well I'd probably be angry for a bit, but it would be fine.

by dmz73 5y ago

beepbooptheory 5y ago

I just feel like once we begin talking about these things at the scale of trends or patterns, or as a crisis in the social order, what have you, we kinda naturally tend to treat them as symptoms. Its not this crime or that crime, its just social phenomenon. Like, an aberration in statistics or data for a doctor isn't the disease itself, because its just data, but a clue or symbol into a larger thing going on. (I'm not a physician). Now if you want to grant that view for a second, I think its rational, what are we left with to say? Is it a symptom of the forces of evil that exist, and must be kept at bay? I dont like that view! At some level, I just don't understand precisely where this anger is directed at, its always like people have someone in mind.. I think I'm radical only in the idea that if society is going to manifest symptoms, so be it. We are all doing what we can. I maybe know some ideas of how to fix some things, but that doesn't even need to be the point! I get that like everyone is angry at people who steal, I have been a victim of great theft in my life.. But I don't think its ultimately the evil of that person I am angry at, its the world where he is compelled to or not. And if he was just some low life scoundrel in an otherwise utopian society? Well I'd probably be angry for a bit, but it would be fine.